The Twin Reasons why AR.com will Never Realize it's Potential

**Veryld** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:07 PM

Misogyny

and

Racism

For some reason, both are tolerated and even encouraged here. Do you think that only dominant white males drink alcohol?

The above two are the reasons this board is never going to realize it's true commercial potential. This is why, despite dozens of search engines reading every page of the board, over half of the member list have never even posted. Obviously, a small handful of active members enjoy this and that's great for you, but you have to understand your narrow vision keeps thousands more potential members from joining up and enriching your experience. I myself find it trying at times, and frankly, it's a little boring since everyone basically seems like a "good old white boy". Hence, I've been posting here less.

Nick, it's your board and you can do what you want with it. As a successful businessperson, it is my duty to remind you that you could be making a lot of money from advertisements, but you will never realize that potential profit until you fix the two big problems listed above.

Thanks for reading, everyone.

**Mannix** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:07 PM

**89BB** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:08 PM

fyayst

**Mannix** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veryld

Misogyny

and

Racism

I myself find it trying at times, and frankly, it's a little boring since everyone basically seems like a "good old white boy". Hence, I've been posting here less.

Let's keep it up, everybody!

**Jaredk** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:09 PM

I wouldn't enjoy the talking about boone's farm etc. They are more than welcome to join the site. If they can't handle the heat don't step into the kitchen.

**Witchy** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veryld

Misogyny

and

Racism

For some reason, both are tolerated and even encouraged here. Do you think that only dominant white males drink alcohol?

The above two are the reasons this board is never going to realize it's true commercial potential. This is why, despite dozens of search engines reading every page of the board, over half of the member list have never even posted. Obviously, a small handful of active members enjoy this and that's great for you, but you have to understand your narrow vision keeps thousands more potential members from joining up and enriching your experience. I myself find it trying at times, and frankly, it's a little boring since everyone basically seems like a "good old white boy". Hence, I've been posting here less.

Nick, it's your board and you can do what you want with it. As a successful businessperson, it is my duty to remind you that you could be making a lot of money from advertisements, but you will never realize that potential profit until you fix the two big problems listed above.

Thanks for reading, everyone.

**eric** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:11 PM

You trippin man'.

**89BB** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Witchy

You're just a dumb girl, you wouldn't get it

Luckily, you're not black, otherwise we'd REALLY have a problem

**Jaredk** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:12 PM

Also, I am not a misogynist at all. I would love any girl for a night.

**Nova5** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:12 PM

Most of the member list is here for the arcade.

**89BB** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:12 PM

Maybe if we changed the name to maltliquorreport.com, we might attract a more racially diverse crowd

**absolom** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:14 PM

**Anthony** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:14 PM

I agree.

**TK_05** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:16 PM

You're right.

Black females are THE WORST.

**George Jung** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:16 PM

Quote:

This message is hidden because Veryld is on your ignore list.

**Witchy** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89blownbrd

You're just a dumb girl, you wouldn't get it

Luckily, you're not black, otherwise we'd REALLY have a problem

**Nick** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veryld

Misogyny

and

Racism

For some reason, both are tolerated and even encouraged here. Do you think that only dominant white males drink alcohol?

The above two are the reasons this board is never going to realize it's true commercial potential. This is why, despite dozens of search engines reading every page of the board, over half of the member list have never even posted. Obviously, a small handful of active members enjoy this and that's great for you, but you have to understand your narrow vision keeps thousands more potential members from joining up and enriching your experience. I myself find it trying at times, and frankly, it's a little boring since everyone basically seems like a "good old white boy". Hence, I've been posting here less.

Nick, it's your board and you can do what you want with it. As a successful businessperson, it is my duty to remind you that you could be making a lot of money from advertisements, but you will never realize that potential profit until you fix the two big problems listed above.

Thanks for reading, everyone.

I appreciate the input. Here, I'll make you a list of responses.

This isn't a business, hence why it's not run like one. It's a hobby of mine, and a sandbox for me to learn coding.
Almost any forum is going to have a large number of registered users that never post.
Believe me, this place would be far less populated if I started ruling with an iron fist.
White males are going to be, by far, the primary demographic for any alcohol related internet message board (hell, white males are the primary demographic for most web sites, period).
Lack of content in the alcohol related forums is the problem, and I'm well aware of it.

**Jin** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:18 PM

People on other forums are uptight. I enjoy the laid-back anything goes type of environment this forum has.

Its a forum about alcohol not human rights.. I like the bar-like feel of it. Its actually the reason I joined.

**Jin** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

Believe me, this place would be far less populated if I started ruling with an iron fist.

I actually joke quite often that I'm surprised that I've yet to be banned.

I WOULD NOT post if you had been more strict.

**89BB** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jin

People on other forums are uptight. I enjoy the laid-back anything goes type of environment this forum has.

Its a forum about alcohol not human rights.. I like the bar-like feel of it. Its actually the reason I joined.

That, and the b****es

**Nick** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jin

I actually joke quite often that I'm surprised that I've yet to be banned.

I WOULD NOT post if you had been more strict.

I'd rather people feel like they can say what they think. Personally, I don't think misogyny and racism are huge problems here, though the racism was getting pretty thick for a while.

I deal with problem members on a case by case basis.

**Mannix** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

I appreciate the input. Here, I'll make you a list of responses.

This isn't a business, hence why it's not run like one. It's a hobby of mine, and a sandbox for me to learn coding.
Almost any forum is going to have a large number of registered users that never post.
Believe me, this place would be far less populated if I started ruling with an iron fist.
White males are going to be, by far, the primary demographic for any alcohol related internet message board (hell, white males are the primary demographic for most web sites, period).
Lack of content in the alcohol related forums is the problem, and I'm well aware of it.

But you're not a successful businessman, therefore your responses are wrong. And, you don't have an IQ of 140.

**Nick** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 89blownbrd

That, and the b****es

We do have some hot b****es here these days.

**Nick** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooser

But you're not a successful businessman, therefore your responses are wrong. And, you don't have an IQ of 140.

There's no need for me to be a businessman, as this isn't a business.

**89BB** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rooser

But you're not a successful businessman, therefore your responses are wrong. And, you don't have an IQ of 140.

I bet he can't even play any video games blindfolded either.

**Nick** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:25 PM

I agree that if I decide to push this to be a more of a income earner, changes will need to be made to the barstool. Much of the crass conversation would likely move to the back room.

**michelob** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

We do have some hot b****es here these days.

**Jin** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:25 PM

I have to be politically correct 14 hours a day.

Last thing I want is somebody silencing me on my leisure time.

Trust me Veryld, in real life I'm a mature, well-spoken, charismatic person. This is the type of forum that I can say stupid s*** all day and blend in.

I just really hate how the worlds gotten to the point where people shun me for making asian jokes despite being asian myself. As I stated above people need to be thick skinned about dumb comments. People will say stupid s*** about women and other races, thats life.

In actuality, I don't think people on this forum genuinely, deep in their heart, feel hatred towards women.....now blacks are a different story.

**michelob** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jin

I have to be politically correct 14 hours a day.

Last thing I want is somebody silencing me on my leisure time.

Trust me Veryld, in real life I'm a mature, well-spoken, charismatic person. This is the type of forum that I can say stupid s*** all day and blend in.

I just really hate how the worlds gotten to the point where people shun me for making asian jokes despite being asian myself. As I stated above people need to be thick skinned about dumb comments. People will say stupid s*** about women and other races, thats life.

In actuality, I don't think people on this forum genuinely, deep in their heart, feel hatred towards women.....now blacks are a different story.

I don't think many, or even ANY, regular members here hate black people.

**Nick** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelob

I don't think many, or even ANY, regular members here hate black people.

Just don't start talking about the f***ing Mexicans.

**Anthony** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelob

I don't think many, or even ANY, regular members here hate black people.

Wait, are we considering Tray black?

**George Jung** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelob

I don't think many, or even ANY, regular members here hate black people.

Jews on the other hand

**Anthony** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jin

I have to be politically correct 14 hours a day.

Last thing I want is somebody silencing me on my leisure time.

Trust me Veryld, in real life I'm a mature, well-spoken, charismatic person. This is the type of forum that I can say stupid s*** all day and blend in.

I just really hate how the worlds gotten to the point where people shun me for making asian jokes despite being asian myself. As I stated above people need to be thick skinned about dumb comments. People will say stupid s*** about women and other races, thats life.

In actuality, I don't think people on this forum genuinely, deep in their heart, feel hatred towards women.....now blacks are a different story.

PM me a price on Blue Label.

**michelob** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Wait, are we considering Tray black?

**Jin** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

PM me a price on Blue Label.

No. You's a b****.

Business is finally slowing down so I'll be posting more frequently. I've been pretty inactive since Thanksgiving.

**Jaredk** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

We do have some hot b****es here these days.

We need more.

I will try to help as much as I can.

Which will be very little.

**Jin** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

Just don't start talking about the f***ing Mexicans.

Don't get me started on the messicans.

**adragster7104** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

I appreciate the input. Here, I'll make you a list of responses.

Lack of content in the alcohol related forums is the problem, and I'm well aware of it.

I'm trying to add content

**2001Z28M6** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veryld

Misogyny

and

Racism

For some reason, both are tolerated and even encouraged here. Do you think that only dominant white males drink alcohol?

The above two are the reasons this board is never going to realize it's true commercial potential. This is why, despite dozens of search engines reading every page of the board, over half of the member list have never even posted. Obviously, a small handful of active members enjoy this and that's great for you, but you have to understand your narrow vision keeps thousands more potential members from joining up and enriching your experience. I myself find it trying at times, and frankly, it's a little boring since everyone basically seems like a "good old white boy". Hence, I've been posting here less.

Nick, it's your board and you can do what you want with it. As a successful businessperson, it is my duty to remind you that you could be making a lot of money from advertisements, but you will never realize that potential profit until you fix the two big problems listed above.

Thanks for reading, everyone.

**Harmon Rabb** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Jung

Jews on the other hand

**michelob** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2001Z28M6

**michelob** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Jung

Jews on the other hand

**Anthony** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jin

No. You's a b****.

Business is finally slowing down so I'll be posting more frequently. I've been pretty inactive since Thanksgiving.

Don't write checks your ass can't cash.

**George Jung** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon Rabb

Stop soiling the holiness of our upper decks, you shape shifting, Christ killing vermin

Actually, good job killing Jesus. Bad job keeping a lid on it

**Veryld** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

I appreciate the input. Here, I'll make you a list of responses.

This isn't a business, hence why it's not run like one. It's a hobby of mine, and a sandbox for me to learn coding.
Almost any forum is going to have a large number of registered users that never post.
Believe me, this place would be far less populated if I started ruling with an iron fist.
White males are going to be, by far, the primary demographic for any alcohol related internet message board (hell, white males are the primary demographic for most web sites, period).
Lack of content in the alcohol related forums is the problem, and I'm well aware of it.

Thank you for the honest and cordial reply. I expected a flurry of jokes and smileys from the group as a whole, of course, but you took my post seriously, as it was meant to be. I wasn't complaining so much as honestly wondering about the state of things compared to what they could be.

My next question would be- you obviously have the coding down pat. Would you consider, or have you already considered, splitting AR.com into two separate websites and (maybe) forums?

The off-topic section is obviously already a success. It's my opinion that an alcohol related site could stand own it's own, as well. More tame, less of an anything goes forum, but more attractive to advertisers.

You're getting traffic and search engine hits that other sites and forums would kill for. It seems a bit of a waste not to capitalize on that and receive some monetary rewards for your work and initial investment.

**Harmon Rabb** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jin

People on other forums are uptight. I enjoy the laid-back anything goes type of environment this forum has.

Its a forum about alcohol not human rights.. I like the bar-like feel of it. Its actually the reason I joined.

QFFT.

**George Jung** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:36 PM

Seriously, Jin. Can I have a JW price list? Green, Gold, Blue.

**2001Z28M6** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veryld

Thank you for the honest and cordial reply. I expected a flurry of jokes and smileys from the group as a whole, of course, but you took my post seriously, as it was meant to be. I wasn't complaining so much as honestly wondering about the state of things compared to what they could be.

My next question would be- you obviously have the coding down pat. Would you consider, or have you already considered, splitting AR.com into two separate websites and (maybe) forums?

The off-topic section is obviously already a success. It's my opinion that an alcohol related site could stand own it's own, as well. More tame, less of an anything goes forum, but more attractive to advertisers.

You're getting traffic and search engine hits that other sites and forums would kill for. It seems a bit of a waste not to capitalize on that and receive some monetary rewards for your work and initial investment.

he's not a greedy f** like you

**TK_05** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:41 PM

You would think any rational person that joined a website and had 2 months of experience participating in said website would:

1 - Like it and participate.

2- Not like it and leave.

I don't see why we need some new poster complaining that this site doesn't cater to their needs. Like it or leave it, it ain't rocket science.

**2001Z28M6** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TK_05

You would think any rational person that joined a website and had 2 months of experience participating in said website would:

1 - Like it and participate.

2- Not like it and leave.

I don't see why we need some new poster complaining that this site doesn't cater to their needs. Like it or leave it, it ain't rocket science.

i laughed out loud cause i'm stoned and that is so true

**bobanos** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TK_05

You would think any rational person that joined a website and had 2 months of experience participating in said website would:

1 - Like it and participate.

2- Not like it and leave.

I don't see why we need some new poster complaining that this site doesn't cater to their needs. Like it or leave it, it ain't rocket science.

**Zephyr** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:43 PM

Must... resist... urge....

It's just too easy.

**George Jung** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TK_05

You would think any rational person that joined a website and had 2 months of experience participating in said website would:

1 - Like it and participate.

2- Not like it and leave.

I don't see why we need some new poster complaining that this site doesn't cater to their needs. Like it or leave it, it ain't rocket science.

it's like f***ing mexicans demanding we speak spanish

**Nick** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adragster7104

I'm trying to add content

...and it's highly appreciated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veryld

Thank you for the honest and cordial reply. I expected a flurry of jokes and smileys from the group as a whole, of course, but you took my post seriously, as it was meant to be. I wasn't complaining so much as honestly wondering about the state of things compared to what they could be.

My next question would be- you obviously have the coding down pat. Would you consider, or have you already considered, splitting AR.com into two separate websites and (maybe) forums?

The off-topic section is obviously already a success. It's my opinion that an alcohol related site could stand own it's own, as well. More tame, less of an anything goes forum, but more attractive to advertisers.

You're getting traffic and search engine hits that other sites and forums would kill for. It seems a bit of a waste not to capitalize on that and receive some monetary rewards for your work and initial investment.

In general, a forum is a fairly s***ty income earner. A blog would be far better, if I were confident that I could get original content to fill it and keep it regularly updated.

Anyway, how much do you think AR earns? Just curious.

**2001Z28M6** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:47 PM

Veryld is trying to get a job with alcoholreport

**adragster7104** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

...and it's highly appreciated.

My pleasure....I like posting to myself

We definitely need more enthusiasts here

**Veryld** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

...and it's highly appreciated.

In general, a forum is a fairly s***ty income earner. A blog would be far better, if I were confident that I could get original content to fill it and keep it regularly updated.

Anyway, how much do you think AR earns? Just curious.

As it is right now? I don't think AR earns much. I'd be surprised if you're profiting at all. That's not a knock on you, obviously you're doing this for your community of friends, and that's respectable in and of itself.

However, I could see the alcohol-related forum, minus the Barstool, or with a drastically cleaned-up version, earning you several hundred to several thousand dollars a month in advertisement revenue.

As you stated, the problem is the lack of alcohol-related threads. A part of that problem is that the "Barstool" dominates the site. And, as I pointed out, while the current atmosphere is considered "cool" to this particular community, it's keeping away many more potential members than most of you realize. Potential members = potential customers of your potential advertisers.

Compare this to an automotive forum (many of you should appreciate this)- on a profitable board of that nature, the off-topic forum is a pleasant afterthought. Here, at this time, on AR, it's the main part of the forum. But, it's too big, and ultimately not benign; like a cancerous growth, it's sucking the life-blood out of what could be an industry standard-bearer, so to speak.

**George Jung** · January 2nd, 2009, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adragster7104

My pleasure....I like posting to myself

We definitely need more enthusiasts here

It's hard to remember to post when it's so slow up there.

**Jackal** · January 3rd, 2009, 12:16 AM

I just started drinking, I'll wait until I have a few more beers before I respond.

**adragster7104** · January 3rd, 2009, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Jung

It's hard to remember to post when it's so slow up there.

Apparently I'm the only one drinking new stuff to post about......