07 911 turbo vs 07 Z06

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

I'm not going to get into the build quality of BMWs.

When you have a warranty problem though you get treated great. Unlike the way Berman has been treated with his C6 problems.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 06:52 PM

Better > Just fine

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

build quality my ass. My roommates 325xi has an interior on par with the C6.

Yeah a 91 325Xi is about on par with a C6 interior

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

When you have a warranty problem though you get treated great. Unlike the way Berman has been treated with his C6 problems.

I'd say wrong dealership. I'd assume there are less "wrong dealerships" for a BMW though.
I always liked BMW service. Even when I was at a certain company that used BMW parts on their cars, I liked their service (and I was just buying parts- not getting service).

**426HEMI** · March 16th, 2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

I believe Rob was talking about daily drivers. 335i will handle just fine for a daily driver.

And therein lies the problem. Just fine for him is different than just fine for others. Just fine is what fits his argument at the moment.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

When you have a warranty problem though you get treated great.

That's f***ing weak as piss even if you do have a warranty.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by F1_SS

Yeah a 91 325Xi is about on par with a C6 interior

His is s***. His seats were ok, at best. Nothing impressed me. the materials we boring. the ergonomics are TERRIBLE- nothing is where it should be. The gaps are acceptable. Sound damping is inadequate. A few panels have already broke off in 17k miles.

nothing special about it all. If that BMW logo was a bowtie or blue oval- it would suck.

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

I'd say wrong dealership. I'd assume there are less "wrong dealerships" for a BMW though.
I always liked BMW service. Even when I was at a certain company that used BMW parts on their cars, I liked their service (and I was just buying parts- not getting service).

My family has always been treated very well while dealing with BMW's.

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

That's f***ing weak as piss even if you do have a warranty.

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**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 426HEMI

And therein lies the problem. Just fine for him is different than just fine for others. Just fine is what fits his argument at the moment.

When you are using a car to DD you general don't take it to the track or anything. So it is fine for on ramps/off ramps and a few turns here and there.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

When you are using a car to DD you general don't take it to the track or anything. So it is fine for on ramps/off ramps and a few turns here and there.

It's relative. Generally, I go to about 85% of the car's handling around corners when I'm being a bit free spirited. I'd take corners harder in a car that handled better.

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

His is s***. His seats were ok, at best. Nothing impressed me. the materials we boring. the ergonomics are TERRIBLE- nothing is where it should be. The gaps are acceptable. Sound damping is inadequate. A few panels have already broke off in 17k miles.

nothing special about it all. If that BMW logo was a bowtie or blue oval- it would suck.

Sound deadening

OUC, i drove a Zo6, that thing didnt have an ounce of sound deadening.

I drove an 06 330 and i liked it. The seats had tons of adjustments (i have a bad back at times). Materials were nice.

The leather actually felt like leather

My C5 seats felt like they were made of a trash bag

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

When you are using a car to DD you general don't take it to the track or anything. So it is fine for on ramps/off ramps and a few turns here and there.

That's probably the position I would take if I wanted to ignore performance in favor of luxury and prestige.

**Stanky Rich** · March 16th, 2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 426HEMI

And therein lies the problem. Just fine for him is different than just fine for others. Just fine is what fits his argument at the moment.

unless you live on the n-ring, i'm sure it's all universal.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by F1_SS

Sound deadening

OUC, i drove a Zo6, that thing didnt have an ounce of sound deadening.

I drove an 06 330 and i liked it. The seats had tons of adjustments (i have a bad back at times). Materials were nice.

The leather actually felt like leather

My C5 seats felt like they were made of a trash bag

I was commenting on my disappointment with the car's interior/quality and how it isn't what it is claimed to be.

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 07:02 PM

nobody cares what OUC thinks.

What would you buy OUC?

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

That's probably the position I would take if I wanted to ignore performance in favor of luxury and prestige.

You act as if the car is slow though? If you only car about performance, then like I said earlier,go mod a fox body.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by F1_SS

nobody cares what OUC thinks.

What would you buy OUC?

I'll ignore the disgusting amount of hypocrisy and irony in that post and answer your question.
M5

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

You act as if the car is slow though? If you only car about performance, then like I said earlier,go mod a fox body.

I act as if the car was relatively slow, which it is. If you only care about luxury, why not buy a used rolls royce. Super build quality, man.

**Rob** · March 16th, 2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

I act as if the car was relatively slow, which it is. If you only care about luxury, why not buy a used rolls royce. Super build quality, man.

You can think what you want. The BMW is a better built car.

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

You can think what you want. The BMW is a better built car.

911

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

You can think what you want. The BMW is a better built car.

The two BMW's we've had were not built as well as our 1993 Suburban.

**Rob** · March 16th, 2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by F1_SS

911

I was talking about the 335i debate that just started. I think it's hilarious. Oh, and I echo your thoughts on the C5 - those seats do feel like trash bags. Typical GM garbage.

**Rob** · March 16th, 2007, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

The two BMW's we've had were not built as well as our 1993 Suburban.

What two BMWs have you owned? How were you treated at the service center?

**Booger** · March 16th, 2007, 07:27 PM

Damn too much eb****ing.

I'd take the 911 over the vette anyday. They are just simply badass.

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

Damn too much eb****ing.

I'd take the 911 over the vette anyday. They are just simply badass.

But the Zo6 went 2 secs faster around the N ring with a pro driver

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by F1_SS

But the Zo6 went 2 secs faster around the N ring with a pro driver

I know sometimes when I run out to get milk, I may decided to stop off at the N-ring on the way home.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

Damn too much eb****ing.

I'd take the 911 over the vette anyday. They are just simply badass.

Just discussing cars

**Rob** · March 16th, 2007, 07:41 PM

Cars.

**Booger** · March 16th, 2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by F1_SS

But the Zo6 went 2 secs faster around the N ring with a pro driver

Whooptie s***, how many people can drive like that, much less will ever drive on the Nring?

Yah, about none of the members here.

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

Whooptie s***, how many people can drive like that, much less will ever drive on the Nring?

Yah, about none of the members here.

Im waiting for trey to come in saying he drove on the N ring and it felt faster than any 911 TT

**Rob** · March 16th, 2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Booger

Whooptie s***, how many people can drive like that, much less will ever drive on the Nring?

Yah, about none of the members here.

It's the same thing as when people suck c*** over the one person that runs an incredible quarter-mile time in a car...and the second best time is about five tenths and two MPH slower.

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 07:48 PM

BMW better than Porsche

the only BMW's that are worth a damn are M-series. Even their 7series is highly overrated for their price.

If I had to pick a German car....Mercedes AMG

**Rob** · March 16th, 2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

BMW better than Porsche

the only BMW's that are worth a damn are M-series. Even their 7series is highly overrated for their price.

If I had to pick a German car....Mercedes AMG

No, I was talking about the 335i in comparison to the Corvette. And no, none of them are overpriced - go test drive the new 335i and you'll stop spouting nonsense.

**mirroredfire** · March 16th, 2007, 07:52 PM

id take the z06 to drive around

**Rob** · March 16th, 2007, 07:53 PM

I'd drive the Z06 as well. It's a nice car.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

What two BMWs have you owned? How were you treated at the service center?

A 528i and a 535i. Neither was warrantied during our ownership.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

A 528i and a 535i. Neither was warrantied during our ownership.

even better than the best service- no service

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

No, I was talking about the 335i in comparison to the Corvette. And no, none of them are overpriced - go test drive the new 335i and you'll stop spouting nonsense.

I took one out on the autobahn when they came out with the new style a few years ago. Wasn't that impressed. Forget that I was in Germany from '04-'06? I just don't like BMW's at all Rob

I find the interior cheaply made compared to its German counterpart.

**Rob** · March 16th, 2007, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

I took one out on the autobahn when they came out with the new style a few years ago. Wasn't that impressed. Forget that I was in Germany from '04-'06?

They had the new models out then?

**Rob** · March 16th, 2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

A 528i and a 535i. Neither was warrantied during our ownership.

You bought used cars - or had no issues with new ones?

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

They had the new models out then?

I think it was only the 325/8i's in late '05.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by F1_SS

But the Zo6 went 2 secs faster around the N ring with a pro driver

How full of s*** can you be? The Z06 outran the McLaren F1 by 2 seconds. It beat the closest 911 by more than 20 seconds.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

How full of s*** can you be? The Z06 outran the McLaren F1 by 2 seconds. It beat the closest 911 by more than 20 seconds.

is that true? very hard to believe.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

You bought used cars - or had no issues with new ones?

Used. Each bought with less than 75k miles on them and both run well past 200k. Now before you try, just go ahead and contemplate buying BMW lemons at a ratio of 2 for 2.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

is that true? very hard to believe.

The ring doth not lie. 7:42.9 to 7:45.

**Rob** · March 16th, 2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

Used. Each bought with less than 75k miles on them and both run well past 200k. Now before you try, just go ahead and contemplate buying BMW lemons at a ratio of 2 for 2.

All BMWs are lemons. Based on your experiences, I am going to roll in a used Suburban.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 08:04 PM

but people on the internet do. link?

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

even better than the best service- no service

BUT THEY ARE SO NICE WHEN IT BREAKS!!!!

**Rob** · March 16th, 2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

BUT THEY ARE SO NICE WHEN IT BREAKS!!!!

They are. There's nothing quite like a Mercedes or BMW dealership/service center. I'll avoid buying American cars if at all possible.

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

How full of s*** can you be? The Z06 outran the McLaren F1 by 2 seconds. It beat the closest 911 by more than 20 seconds.

Obviously my sarcasm didnt come through your monitor.

Please upgrade

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

All BMWs are lemons. Based on your experiences, I am going to roll in a used Suburban.

I don't think they're all lemons, nor do I think comparing a suburban to a BMW is useful in any sense other than I have used it(build quality). I don't carry around 1,000 italian knives to perform daily tasks just because they have awesome build quality either. There's a balance. Just don't bulls*** yourself or anyone else about the build quality you think is inherent in higher end cars.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 08:08 PM

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by F1_SS

Obviously my sarcasm didnt come through your monitor.

Please upgrade

Don't trip over your feet backpeddling. You made a joke about the small performance difference. The joke is on you.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

They are. There's nothing quite like a Mercedes or BMW dealership/service center. I'll avoid buying American cars if at all possible.

Here's an idea: buy a car that doesn't break enough to make you concerned with the luxury of the dealership. That way you can live in a house that's nicer than the dealership and it will be really nice even when your car isn't broken!

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

Don't trip over your feet backpeddling. You made a joke about the small performance difference. The joke is on you.

Why would i back peddle. I made a joke, another member got the joke and you didnt.

Maybe my sense of humor is just to advanced for your uneducated mind.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 08:12 PM

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Why would i back peddle. I made a joke, another member got the joke and you didnt.

Maybe my sense of humor is just to advanced for your uneducated mind.

Indeed, it was intended to be a joke. But we can see how that turned out for you.

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

Indeed, it was intended to be a joke. But we can see how that turned out for you.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 08:16 PM

**Jack Daniels** · March 16th, 2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

It has more style and prestige. It's about as powerful with an incredibly engineered German powerplant and suspension. The interior materials and quality is tenfold that of the Z06. It's more luxurious.

The fact that the Z06 is three tenths faster in the quarter mile is meaningless. As a whole, it's an inferior car. It's a marginally better performance car, but I want more.

Ahhh. Good old pricey prestige.