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Old March 16th, 2007, 06:52 PM   #61
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I'm not going to get into the build quality of BMWs.
When you have a warranty problem though you get treated great. Unlike the way Berman has been treated with his C6 problems.
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build quality my ass. My roommates 325xi has an interior on par with the C6.



Yeah a 91 325Xi is about on par with a C6 interior
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When you have a warranty problem though you get treated great. Unlike the way Berman has been treated with his C6 problems.
I'd say wrong dealership. I'd assume there are less "wrong dealerships" for a BMW though.
I always liked BMW service. Even when I was at a certain company that used BMW parts on their cars, I liked their service (and I was just buying parts- not getting service).
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I believe Rob was talking about daily drivers. 335i will handle just fine for a daily driver.
And therein lies the problem. Just fine for him is different than just fine for others. Just fine is what fits his argument at the moment.
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That's f***ing weak as piss even if you do have a warranty.
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Yeah a 91 325Xi is about on par with a C6 interior
His is s***. His seats were ok, at best. Nothing impressed me. the materials we boring. the ergonomics are TERRIBLE- nothing is where it should be. The gaps are acceptable. Sound damping is inadequate. A few panels have already broke off in 17k miles.

nothing special about it all. If that BMW logo was a bowtie or blue oval- it would suck.
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I'd say wrong dealership. I'd assume there are less "wrong dealerships" for a BMW though.
I always liked BMW service. Even when I was at a certain company that used BMW parts on their cars, I liked their service (and I was just buying parts- not getting service).
My family has always been treated very well while dealing with BMW's.
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That's f***ing weak as piss even if you do have a warranty.
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And therein lies the problem. Just fine for him is different than just fine for others. Just fine is what fits his argument at the moment.
When you are using a car to DD you general don't take it to the track or anything. So it is fine for on ramps/off ramps and a few turns here and there.
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When you are using a car to DD you general don't take it to the track or anything. So it is fine for on ramps/off ramps and a few turns here and there.
It's relative. Generally, I go to about 85% of the car's handling around corners when I'm being a bit free spirited. I'd take corners harder in a car that handled better.
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His is s***. His seats were ok, at best. Nothing impressed me. the materials we boring. the ergonomics are TERRIBLE- nothing is where it should be. The gaps are acceptable. Sound damping is inadequate. A few panels have already broke off in 17k miles.

nothing special about it all. If that BMW logo was a bowtie or blue oval- it would suck.
Sound deadening OUC, i drove a Zo6, that thing didnt have an ounce of sound deadening.

I drove an 06 330 and i liked it. The seats had tons of adjustments (i have a bad back at times). Materials were nice.

The leather actually felt like leather
My C5 seats felt like they were made of a trash bag
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When you are using a car to DD you general don't take it to the track or anything. So it is fine for on ramps/off ramps and a few turns here and there.
That's probably the position I would take if I wanted to ignore performance in favor of luxury and prestige.
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And therein lies the problem. Just fine for him is different than just fine for others. Just fine is what fits his argument at the moment.
unless you live on the n-ring, i'm sure it's all universal.
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Sound deadening OUC, i drove a Zo6, that thing didnt have an ounce of sound deadening.

I drove an 06 330 and i liked it. The seats had tons of adjustments (i have a bad back at times). Materials were nice.

The leather actually felt like leather
My C5 seats felt like they were made of a trash bag
I was commenting on my disappointment with the car's interior/quality and how it isn't what it is claimed to be.
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nobody cares what OUC thinks.


What would you buy OUC?
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That's probably the position I would take if I wanted to ignore performance in favor of luxury and prestige.
You act as if the car is slow though? If you only car about performance, then like I said earlier,go mod a fox body.
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nobody cares what OUC thinks.


What would you buy OUC?
I'll ignore the disgusting amount of hypocrisy and irony in that post and answer your question.
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You act as if the car is slow though? If you only car about performance, then like I said earlier,go mod a fox body.
I act as if the car was relatively slow, which it is. If you only care about luxury, why not buy a used rolls royce. Super build quality, man.
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I act as if the car was relatively slow, which it is. If you only care about luxury, why not buy a used rolls royce. Super build quality, man.
You can think what you want. The BMW is a better built car.
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You can think what you want. The BMW is a better built car.
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You can think what you want. The BMW is a better built car.
The two BMW's we've had were not built as well as our 1993 Suburban.
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I was talking about the 335i debate that just started. I think it's hilarious. Oh, and I echo your thoughts on the C5 - those seats do feel like trash bags. Typical GM garbage.
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The two BMW's we've had were not built as well as our 1993 Suburban.
What two BMWs have you owned? How were you treated at the service center?
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Damn too much eb****ing.

I'd take the 911 over the vette anyday. They are just simply badass.
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Damn too much eb****ing.

I'd take the 911 over the vette anyday. They are just simply badass.

But the Zo6 went 2 secs faster around the N ring with a pro driver
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But the Zo6 went 2 secs faster around the N ring with a pro driver
I know sometimes when I run out to get milk, I may decided to stop off at the N-ring on the way home.
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Damn too much eb****ing.

I'd take the 911 over the vette anyday. They are just simply badass.
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But the Zo6 went 2 secs faster around the N ring with a pro driver
Whooptie s***, how many people can drive like that, much less will ever drive on the Nring?

Yah, about none of the members here.
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Whooptie s***, how many people can drive like that, much less will ever drive on the Nring?

Yah, about none of the members here.

Im waiting for trey to come in saying he drove on the N ring and it felt faster than any 911 TT
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Whooptie s***, how many people can drive like that, much less will ever drive on the Nring?

Yah, about none of the members here.
It's the same thing as when people suck c*** over the one person that runs an incredible quarter-mile time in a car...and the second best time is about five tenths and two MPH slower.
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BMW better than Porsche the only BMW's that are worth a damn are M-series. Even their 7series is highly overrated for their price.

If I had to pick a German car....Mercedes AMG
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BMW better than Porsche the only BMW's that are worth a damn are M-series. Even their 7series is highly overrated for their price.

If I had to pick a German car....Mercedes AMG
No, I was talking about the 335i in comparison to the Corvette. And no, none of them are overpriced - go test drive the new 335i and you'll stop spouting nonsense.
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I'd drive the Z06 as well. It's a nice car.
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What two BMWs have you owned? How were you treated at the service center?
A 528i and a 535i. Neither was warrantied during our ownership.
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A 528i and a 535i. Neither was warrantied during our ownership.
even better than the best service- no service
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No, I was talking about the 335i in comparison to the Corvette. And no, none of them are overpriced - go test drive the new 335i and you'll stop spouting nonsense.

I took one out on the autobahn when they came out with the new style a few years ago. Wasn't that impressed. Forget that I was in Germany from '04-'06? I just don't like BMW's at all Rob I find the interior cheaply made compared to its German counterpart.
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I took one out on the autobahn when they came out with the new style a few years ago. Wasn't that impressed. Forget that I was in Germany from '04-'06?
They had the new models out then?
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You bought used cars - or had no issues with new ones?
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I think it was only the 325/8i's in late '05.
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But the Zo6 went 2 secs faster around the N ring with a pro driver
How full of s*** can you be? The Z06 outran the McLaren F1 by 2 seconds. It beat the closest 911 by more than 20 seconds.
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How full of s*** can you be? The Z06 outran the McLaren F1 by 2 seconds. It beat the closest 911 by more than 20 seconds.
is that true? very hard to believe.
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Used. Each bought with less than 75k miles on them and both run well past 200k. Now before you try, just go ahead and contemplate buying BMW lemons at a ratio of 2 for 2.
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is that true? very hard to believe.
The ring doth not lie. 7:42.9 to 7:45.
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Used. Each bought with less than 75k miles on them and both run well past 200k. Now before you try, just go ahead and contemplate buying BMW lemons at a ratio of 2 for 2.
All BMWs are lemons. Based on your experiences, I am going to roll in a used Suburban.
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even better than the best service- no service
BUT THEY ARE SO NICE WHEN IT BREAKS!!!!
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They are. There's nothing quite like a Mercedes or BMW dealership/service center. I'll avoid buying American cars if at all possible.

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How full of s*** can you be? The Z06 outran the McLaren F1 by 2 seconds. It beat the closest 911 by more than 20 seconds.

Obviously my sarcasm didnt come through your monitor.


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I don't think they're all lemons, nor do I think comparing a suburban to a BMW is useful in any sense other than I have used it(build quality). I don't carry around 1,000 italian knives to perform daily tasks just because they have awesome build quality either. There's a balance. Just don't bulls*** yourself or anyone else about the build quality you think is inherent in higher end cars.
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Obviously my sarcasm didnt come through your monitor.


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Don't trip over your feet backpeddling. You made a joke about the small performance difference. The joke is on you.
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They are. There's nothing quite like a Mercedes or BMW dealership/service center. I'll avoid buying American cars if at all possible.

Here's an idea: buy a car that doesn't break enough to make you concerned with the luxury of the dealership. That way you can live in a house that's nicer than the dealership and it will be really nice even when your car isn't broken!
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Don't trip over your feet backpeddling. You made a joke about the small performance difference. The joke is on you.
Why would i back peddle. I made a joke, another member got the joke and you didnt.

Maybe my sense of humor is just to advanced for your uneducated mind.
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Why would i back peddle. I made a joke, another member got the joke and you didnt.

Maybe my sense of humor is just to advanced for your uneducated mind.
Indeed, it was intended to be a joke. But we can see how that turned out for you.
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It has more style and prestige. It's about as powerful with an incredibly engineered German powerplant and suspension. The interior materials and quality is tenfold that of the Z06. It's more luxurious.

The fact that the Z06 is three tenths faster in the quarter mile is meaningless. As a whole, it's an inferior car. It's a marginally better performance car, but I want more.

Ahhh. Good old pricey prestige.
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