07 911 turbo vs 07 Z06

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

I can't wait till we get that f***ing aircraft here!

here as in production? or are you in the USAF?

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

figured he was talking about Rolls Royce

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

here as in production? or are you in the USAF?

USAF, Shaw is the first AD to get it

**94bamf** · March 16th, 2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

I've yet to see conclusive evidence that car won't roll in the turns on a multi-turntrack and still keep up with something that was designed to actually be on it.

It is obvious you know so little about the Z06 or its capabilities that you should probably STFU right about now...

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

I just said performance was important

but performance is not everything.

You said it, but you obviously don't really think so.

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

You said it, but you obviously don't really think so.

Explain why I don't think so?

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 94bamf

It is obvious you know so little about the Z06 or its capabilities that you should probably STFU right about now...

post up or shut up

And where did I state I "knew" everything about the Z06? I stated my opinions on what I've read from other posters about that car and made my own statement...whether or not its wrong is irrelevant unless you want to prove me wrong, and when you do I'll concede and say I was wrong

Amazing when not all of us are d***s

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 09:28 PM

Im still not sure about getting a C6

I like this one, i would get it with black "leather" though

**Stanky Rich** · March 16th, 2007, 09:29 PM

i'd have to get a c6 in black. red, above, looks good, but IMO, c6s look stupid any other color besides black.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

USAF, Shaw is the first AD to get it

Nice. I was going to say... it's been combat ready for a while now.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

Explain why I don't think so?

Because you consistently downplay it in favor of the things I listed(oops, I didn't list buttons on the steering wheel). Performance is of relatively little importance to you.

**Jack Daniels** · March 16th, 2007, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

I've yet to see conclusive evidence that car won't roll in the turns on a multi-turntrack and still keep up with something that was designed to actually be on it.

2007 Lotus Exige S, 2007 Porsche 911 GT3, 2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - Comparison Tests - Car and Driver

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Terror

i'd have to get a c6 in black. red, above, looks good, but IMO, c6s look stupid any other color besides black.

look pretty slick in silver

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Terror

i'd have to get a c6 in black. red, above, looks good, but IMO, c6s look stupid any other color besides black.

I owned 1 black car and i will never do that again.

**Stanky Rich** · March 16th, 2007, 09:31 PM

personally, i don't care what the interior is like, per say, as long as it doesn't rattle and seem cheap.

ie: my foxbody started rattling like f*** now.

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

Because you consistently downplay it in favor of the things I listed(oops, I didn't list buttons on the steering wheel). Performance is of relatively little importance to you.

Again the whole package is important.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 09:32 PM

aside: Am I the only one that thinks the C6 interior looks good? or at least... more acceptable?

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Daniels

2007 Lotus Exige S, 2007 Porsche 911 GT3, 2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 - Comparison Tests - Car and Driver

2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo, 2006 Ferrari F430 - Comparison Tests - Car and Driver

since its going against the car its been compared to the most right now

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

I've yet to see conclusive evidence that car won't roll in the turns on a multi-turntrack and still keep up with something that was designed to actually be on it.

Keep up?

Why would you even talk about something you have so little information about?

**Stanky Rich** · March 16th, 2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

aside: Am I the only one that thinks the C6 interior looks good? or at least... more acceptable?

it looks fine. when i drove a c6, i liked it. i also like the gto's interior.

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

Nice. I was going to say... it's been combat ready for a while now.

ooo I know

we are waiting very impatiently here for it. Our OG is like a f***ing school girl after he found out we were being assigned it. Meaning we'll have the very last F-16 to be delieverd to the USAF and the first AD F-35

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

Again the whole package is important.

Sure it is.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 09:34 PM

I can compare my GSXR to my truck- doesn't mean it's reasonable. They compared an evo (RWD Focus maybe?) to a Lambo. Doesn't mean they are competitors in the real world.

s***, they compare cars to F-18's

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

Keep up?

Why would you even talk about something you have so little information about?

Cause while I may be wrong, if ya'll give up the information that is, I'll learn what it can do

This is the internet, my pride isn't going to get hurt b/c I know d*** about something and someone calls me out on it.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

ooo I know

we are waiting very impatiently here for it. Our OG is like a f***ing school girl after he found out we were being assigned it. Meaning we'll have the very last F-16 to be delieverd to the USAF and the first AD F-35

You guys get the good JSF. that STOVL is a f***ing turd and a waste of tax money.

If it didn't directly employ me, Id rather see the money set on fire. At least this way it might warm some hobos and not COST us military performance. f***ing brittish with their harrier..look what they started

**ill deuce** · March 16th, 2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by F1_SS

Im still not sure about getting a C6

I like this one, i would get it with black "leather" though

don't buy one if you'll be ashamed of it

reminds me of quad how he builds a mustang but always talks about how bad it sucks

**Jack Daniels** · March 16th, 2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo, 2006 Ferrari F430 - Comparison Tests - Car and Driver

since its going against the car its been compared to the most right now

The fact that the Z06 even places in with cars that cost as much as those is incredible IMO. Given the results, if Chevy spent three times as much on the Vette, just imagine what it would do.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

Cause while I may be wrong, if ya'll give up the information that is, I'll learn what it can do

This is the internet, my pride isn't going to get hurt b/c I know d*** about something and someone calls me out on it.

Ahh. Well, the Z06 basically outruns any nontuner car ever made on the Nurburgring. That's a prestigious, industry standard track with lots of turns.

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

You guys get the good JSF. that STOVL is a f***ing turd and a waste of tax money.

I just don't want to be here the day it flies in. The whole f***ing AF will be down here for it

bad enough 9AF is already trying to plan when it'll deploy the f***in acft out of the base

and we dont' even get it until I think late next year

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Daniels

The fact that the Z06 even places in with cars that cost as much as those is incredible IMO. Given the results, if Chevy spent three times as much on the Vette, just imagine what it would do.

not much. diminishing returns are a b****

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

Ahh. Well, the Z06 basically outruns any nontuner car ever made on the Nurburgring. That's a prestigious, industry standard track with lots of turns.

I know what the track is

I've been to it. I didn't have the results of the 'vette on the track and I was looking around and couldn't find anything. I can find Ferrari's but thats b/c thats all they do is run that f***ing track

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Daniels

The fact that the Z06 even places in with cars that cost as much as those is incredible IMO. Given the results, if Chevy spent three times as much on the Vette, just imagine what it would do.

In the end of the day you are still driving a vette though. I wish GM would create a Ford GT type car. Low production car thats different from what you see at ever corner.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

not much. diminishing returns are a b****

I guess so. Look at the Ford GT.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 09:39 PM

idea behind the blue devil, right?

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

Ahh. Well, the Z06 basically outruns any nontuner car ever made on the Nurburgring. That's a prestigious, industry standard track with lots of turns.

f***ing

I love my daily trips to the ring. Are we going to meet there tomorrow at noon?

**94bamf** · March 16th, 2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

2006 Chevrolet Corvette Z06, 2007 Porsche 911 Turbo, 2006 Ferrari F430 - Comparison Tests - Car and Driver

since its going against the car its been compared to the most right now

This is the one I was getting ready to post for you, Obviously C&D states the flaws they find with the Z06, however it clearly wins EVERY performance catagory easily.

**Stanky Rich** · March 16th, 2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

I guess so. Look at the Ford GT.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

In the end of the day you are still driving a vette though. I wish GM would create a Ford GT type car. Low production car thats different from what you see at ever corner.

Jeremy Clarkson loved his.

Seriously, if prestige was a gigantic c***, you'd have choked yourself to death by now.

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Daniels

The fact that the Z06 even places in with cars that cost as much as those is incredible IMO. Given the results, if Chevy spent three times as much on the Vette, just imagine what it would do.

Oh I know JD, but thats the point of the argument is that they are still in different playing fields. Yes the Z06 is the best "bang for your buck." But why doesn't Chevy put out a car that could fully compete with those cars in every cat other than performance? Just curious to what ya'll would think of a super 'vette that was in the 6 figures area that had the technology and the money put into the testing to really compete with Ferrari

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

idea behind the blue devil, right?

It is still a vette though. I want something totally different from GM.

**Jack Daniels** · March 16th, 2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

In the end of the day you are still driving a vette though. I wish GM would create a Ford GT type car. Low production car thats different from what you see at ever corner.

I'm proud that Chevy makes a relatively affordable performance car that basically kicks the worlds' best ass.

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ill deuce

don't buy one if you'll be ashamed of it

reminds me of quad how he builds a mustang but always talks about how bad it sucks

I like the actual car. The interior needs work, and its not on par for a $50K IMO, but im also not paying $50K for the car.

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 94bamf

This is the one I was getting ready to post for you, Obviously C&D states the flaws they find with the Z06, however it clearly wins EVERY performance catagory easily.

However, I find C&D to be just as biased as any other magazine would be with their tests. American magazines will praise the 'vette while euro mags will call it the biggest POS ever created (see Top Gear episdoe

) I'm not saying the 'vette is inferior at all. However, its just all opinion when it comes to tests like that. Why I wanted the actual track records to really compare them out.

**George Jung** · March 16th, 2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

It is still a vette though. I want something totally different from GM.

It needs to be a cadillac, in that case. No one is going to be happy about paying $150k for a chevy.

The GT, due to its racing heritage, defies that rule.

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

Jeremy Clarkson loved his.

Seriously, if prestige was a gigantic c***, you'd have choked yourself to death by now.

Jeremy Clarkson can love his car all he wants, do you read ferrari, lambo, or other high end exotics forums? 90% of the time when the blue devil/SS/whatever they are calling it is mentioned they say "while it may perform great I can see myself spending $100k on a chevy".

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Daniels

I'm proud that Chevy makes a relatively affordable performance car that basically kicks the worlds' best ass.

Only problem with that is we're the only country that craves performance like that

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Terror

They may be the most expensive American car in production, Ford sells them at a loss, and they manage to run about .9 seconds faster than the Z06.

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by George Jung

It needs to be a cadillac, in that case. No one is going to be happy about paying $150k for a chevy.

The GT, due to its racing heritage, defies that rule.

Good point. I would love to see them make a car like that though.

**Jack Daniels** · March 16th, 2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

Oh I know JD, but thats the point of the argument is that they are still in different playing fields. Yes the Z06 is the best "bang for your buck." But why doesn't Chevy put out a car that could fully compete with those cars in every cat other than performance? Just curious to what ya'll would think of a super 'vette that was in the 6 figures area that had the technology and the money put into the testing to really compete with Ferrari

Silly me, thinking performance cars were supposed to be about performance.

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

They may be the most expensive American car in production, Ford sells them at a loss, and they manage to run about .9 seconds faster than the Z06.

I thought they stopped making the GT

**Jack Daniels** · March 16th, 2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

Only problem with that is we're the only country that craves performance like that

WGAF about what other countries want? What's not to like about an affordable performance car?

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Daniels

Silly me, thinking performance cars were supposed to be about performance.

i know what you mean, but why not put out a 6 figure one that would have all 3 major categories won in everything? Don't you think that would pull more business from say....euro companies??

**F1_SS** · March 16th, 2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

I thought they stopped making the GT

They did.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

Jeremy Clarkson can love his car all he wants, do you read ferrari, lambo, or other high end exotics forums? 90% of the time when the blue devil/SS/whatever they are calling it is mentioned they say "while it may perform great I can see myself spending $100k on a chevy".

It was a joke. Clarkson had so many problems with his he returned it. What do yo say to that kind of mindless snobbery on such boards? It really illustrates just how removed you people are from objectivity. Of course, I wouldn't pay that much either. I'd put my own blower on.

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Daniels

I'm proud that Chevy makes a relatively affordable performance car that basically kicks the worlds' best ass.

In the end of the day though you are going home in a vette. If you where driving a C6 Z06 and lost a race to a riced out civic would you care? No because you are going home in the better car. Would you care that the civic cost less to go faster? No because you are going home in the better car.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BigT

I thought they stopped making the GT

errrr... produced?

**Botz99ss** · March 16th, 2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Martigan

It was a joke. Clarkson had so many problems with his he returned it. What do yo say to that kind of mindless snobbery on such boards? It really illustrates just how removed you people are from objectivity. Of course, I wouldn't pay that much either. I'd put my own blower on.

I thought it might been a joke because I know his hate for american made cars.

**Mad Martigan** · March 16th, 2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

f***ing

I love my daily trips to the ring. Are we going to meet there tomorrow at noon?

Oops! You wouldn't be downplaying performance again would you? Nawwwww.

**Jack Daniels** · March 16th, 2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

In the end of the day though you are going home in a vette. If you where driving a C6 Z06 and lost a race to a riced out civic would you care? No because you are going home in the better car. Would you care that the civic cost less to go faster? No because you are going home in the better car.

You need to stop drinking the kool-aid.

I'd be proud to go home in a Vette. Especially after kicking a Porsche's ass out on the street or track.

**BigT** · March 16th, 2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Daniels

WGAF about what other countries want? What's not to like about an affordable performance car?

I'm talking worldly here:

Other countries don't give a s*** about how fast the car goes in the 1/4 mile because they will never hit that fast. Hell even in the autobahn very rarely did you see a Ferrari (less you were in Frankfurt or Berlin) go flying by. People in Europe demand comfort over performance.

For us:
We all crave having that power, but really, unless you are taking it to the track whats the point? Are you really going to hit 200MPH on the interstate? If you plan on it, let me know so I can turn it to FoxNEWS real quick