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March 16th, 2007, 06:18 PM
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07 911 turbo vs 07 Z06
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March 16th, 2007, 06:20 PM
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I love those 911 TT
I believe they are AWD, but not sure. If they are it would of been nice to see them go from a stop.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:21 PM
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Who didn't see that coming 
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March 16th, 2007, 06:22 PM
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cool video.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:23 PM
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Porsche > Chevrolet
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March 16th, 2007, 06:23 PM
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Yah, you know he ist too used to driving on zee autobahn, yah?
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March 16th, 2007, 06:23 PM
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but c6Z06 > 911 
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March 16th, 2007, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
Porsche > Chevrolet
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Wipe the sand out of your elitist p****.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:25 PM
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Wipe the sand out of your elitist p****.
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I'm sorry that I prefer the superior vehicle.
The Z06 is trash like you.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:25 PM
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i'd take the porsche just because the roof doesn't fly off.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
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Porsche > Chevrolet
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 I'll take a 07 911 turbo over an 07 Z06 any day of the week.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
The Z06 is trash like you.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:25 PM
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I love those 911 TT
I believe they are AWD, but not sure. If they are it would of been nice to see them go from a stop.
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They did go from a dig.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:26 PM
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I'm sorry that I prefer the $$$ vehicle because I'm a nonsensical snob.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 426HEMI
They did go from a dig.
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Just saw it again.
Damn, he got reeled in
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March 16th, 2007, 06:27 PM
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Performance is not everything.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
The Z06 is trash like you.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:27 PM
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They did go from a dig.
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"AWD FTW! I'm gonna win, I'm gonna win, I'm gonna win OH f*** I'M DEAD." 
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March 16th, 2007, 06:28 PM
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nonsensical? what is nonsensical about liking the better car?
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March 16th, 2007, 06:28 PM
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shame Porsche is too lazy with their cars  amazing vehicles but god i hate how they look
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March 16th, 2007, 06:30 PM
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Quote:
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The Z06 is trash like you.
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Jersey Trash likey the Porsche?
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March 16th, 2007, 06:30 PM
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It has more style and prestige. It's about as powerful with an incredibly engineered German powerplant and suspension. The interior materials and quality is tenfold that of the Z06. It's more luxurious.
The fact that the Z06 is three tenths faster in the quarter mile is meaningless. As a whole, it's an inferior car. It's a marginally better performance car, but I want more.

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March 16th, 2007, 06:30 PM
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nonsensical? what is nonsensical about liking the better car?
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Which part is supposed to be better? It didn't show up with the lens filter they used in that video.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:30 PM
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Which part is supposed to be better? It didn't show up with the lens filter they used in that video.
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I suppose my friend's Cobra is a better car than both since it has 670 RWHP. 
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March 16th, 2007, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BigT
shame Porsche is too lazy with their cars  amazing vehicles but god i hate how they look
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Explain in further detail
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March 16th, 2007, 06:31 PM
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Quote:
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The interior materials and quality is tenfold that of the Z06. It's more luxurious.
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I'll give you that and prestige. That's it.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:32 PM
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shame Porsche is too lazy with their cars  amazing vehicles but god i hate how they look
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Lazy? The 911 bodystyle has basically lasted since its inception in 1964 because it's been revered as timeless. 
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March 16th, 2007, 06:32 PM
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Quote:
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I suppose my friend's Cobra is a better car than both since it has 670 RWHP. 
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What does your friend's slobra run at Nürburgring?
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March 16th, 2007, 06:33 PM
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I'll give you that and prestige. That's it.
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Exactly...and in a car like that, I seek the complete package. Nobody can deny the raw performance numbers of the Z06, but the Porsche is just a better overall car when you factor in everything.

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March 16th, 2007, 06:33 PM
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Quote:
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What does your friend's slobra run at Nürburgring?
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Slobra?
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March 16th, 2007, 06:34 PM
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Slobra?
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March 16th, 2007, 06:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob
It has more style and prestige. It's about as powerful with an incredibly engineered German powerplant and suspension. The interior materials and quality is tenfold that of the Z06. It's more luxurious.
The fact that the Z06 is three tenths faster in the quarter mile is meaningless. As a whole, it's an inferior car. It's a marginally better performance car, but I want more.

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You know nothing of engineering.
LS7 > That german powerplant.
more power, more efficient. less complexity. Sorry.
What about The Ring? (honest question) Who is faster?
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March 16th, 2007, 06:36 PM
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You know nothing of engineering.
LS7 > That german powerplant.
more power, more efficient. less complexity. Sorry.
What about The Ring? (honest question) Who is faster?
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Don't patronize me when it comes to engineering. You have an undergraduate degree from a mediocre institution. You didn't graduate with honors and you're an overall bad person.
Stop talking in my threads.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:36 PM
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Quote:
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You know nothing of engineering.
LS7 > That german powerplant.
more power, more efficient. less complexity. Sorry.
What about The Ring? (honest question) Who is faster?
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who gives a f*** about what it runs around the track because FOR DAMN SURE, we aren't going to take it to the N-ring.
performance isn't everything.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:36 PM
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Quote:
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Exactly...and in a car like that, I seek the complete package. Nobody can deny the raw performance numbers of the Z06, but the Porsche is just a better overall car when you factor in everything.

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If wanted to factor everything in then cost/value would come into play and the Porsche would lose again.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:36 PM
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It's actually the fastest car I've ever been in, but I preferred driving the '00 M5. 
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March 16th, 2007, 06:36 PM
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Explain in further detail
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My Opinion:
The styles very rarely change. The most major physical change that has happened in the last decade has been how the headlights were shaped. Before they had more a "frog" type front end, while now its more smooth. The Cayman S is the prime example of laziness. Its like a Boxter and 911 f***ed and its the end result. That car was made sloppy IMO. The boxter is a cheap rendition of the 911, and honestly the 911 is the ONLY car (outside the Carerra GT) that has any sort of styling. Obviously since its German made its made for Euro roads (hence its small size). For the price of a GT2 or even GT3 I'll go get something thats a little more exotic.
but like I said, its my opinion 
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March 16th, 2007, 06:37 PM
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If wanted to factor everything in then cost/value would come into play and the Porsche would lose again.
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The only people that talk about cost are those who are too poor to buy either car. Those people should be silenced.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:37 PM
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Quote:
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If wanted to factor everything in then cost/value would come into play and the Porsche would lose again.
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I don't know about that...the inside of a new Porsche is pretty damn good. But your also paying, what, $20K more for a 911 turbo?
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March 16th, 2007, 06:38 PM
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Quote:
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The only people that talk about cost are those who are too poor to buy either car. Those people should be silenced.
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You just said you wanted to factor everything in. Your a lawyer. Why can't you even follow you own gibber?
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March 16th, 2007, 06:38 PM
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You're paying more for the honor of sitting in an incredible car that doesn't have fake leather and a steering wheel from a Saturn vehicle.

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March 16th, 2007, 06:38 PM
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You just said you wanted to factor everything in. Your a lawyer. Why can't you even follow you own gibber?
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No, we factor in everything I want to factor in. Hence why I win.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:40 PM
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I don't know about that...the inside of a new Porsche is pretty damn good. But your also paying, what, $20K more for a 911 turbo?
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 $123,000, if you get it for list price.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:41 PM
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On a serious note, I hope they improve the interior of the 2008 Corvette, even if by a small margin. After driving the 335i, I can't think of three good reasons that someone would buy a Corvette over the 335i as a daily driver.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:41 PM
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 $123,000, if you get it for list price.
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I didn't look  was just guessing
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March 16th, 2007, 06:41 PM
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No, we factor in everything I want to factor in. Hence why I win.
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Hence why I said you were nonsensical. Your factors are already in: luxurious, quality interior and prestige. Your nonsense has no place in any real comparison.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:42 PM
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You're paying more for the honor of sitting in an incredible car that doesn't have fake leather and a steering wheel from a Saturn vehicle.

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but they are different cats IMO:
Z06- Speed
Porsche- elegance
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March 16th, 2007, 06:43 PM
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Hence why I said you were nonsensical. Your factors are already in: luxurious, quality interior and prestige. Your nonsense has no place in any real comparison.
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Unless you are using the Z06 as a track car only his post makes a lot of sense.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:44 PM
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but they are different cats IMO:
Z06- Speed
Porsche- elegance
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I can mod a fox body to go faster for a lot cheaper then $70k and still have money left over to fix things when they break.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:45 PM
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Unless you are using the Z06 as a track car only his post makes a lot of sense.
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Not really.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:45 PM
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Just to clarify, I'm deliberately being antagonistic. I do feel the Porsche is an all-around superior vehicle, but I understand that the price difference can be a significant issue.
That said, price aside, I don't see an argument for the Z06 being superior. Just because it traps 3 MPH faster in the 1/4 doesn't mean it's a better car.

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March 16th, 2007, 06:45 PM
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On a serious note, I hope they improve the interior of the 2008 Corvette, even if by a small margin. After driving the 335i, I can't think of three good reasons that someone would buy a Corvette over the 335i as a daily driver.
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1.Raw power. 335i's motor will probably never make the power ls2 are making
2. Its American made (Even though all its parts arent  Getrag rear end  )
3.Its americas sports car.
4. The interior is good enough for most people
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March 16th, 2007, 06:47 PM
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1.Raw power. 335i's motor will probably never make the power ls2 are making
2. Its American made (Even though all its parts arent  Getrag rear end  )
3.Its americas sports car.
4. The interior is good enough for most people
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You're right about raw power...but with the Vishnu ECU, the 335i will be making about 360 RWHP and 380 RWTQ, which, for a daily, is quite a bit. The overwhelmingly superior build quality inside and out really make the 335i stand out more than the Corvette.
I can't get over the terrible interior in the Corvette. 
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March 16th, 2007, 06:48 PM
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Don't patronize me when it comes to engineering. You have an undergraduate degree from a mediocre institution. You didn't graduate with honors and you're an overall bad person.
Stop talking in my threads.
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I am a design engineer for state of the art jet engines with my undergraduate degree.
You would be lucky to be dirt poor writing poems in the mud with a stick.
you tell me who is more qualified to speak about engineering.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:48 PM
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Just to clarify, I'm deliberately being antagonistic. I do feel the Porsche is an all-around superior vehicle, but I understand that the price difference can be a significant issue.
That said, price aside, I don't see an argument for the Z06 being superior. Just because it traps 3 MPH faster in the 1/4 doesn't mean it's a better car.

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I am being dead serious. I driving over tonight to give you cancer and rape your sister.
Just because the Porsche has a nicer interior and more prestige doesn't mean it's a better car.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:48 PM
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I am a design engineer for state of the art jet engines with my undergraduate degree.
You would be lucky to be dirt poor writing poems in dirt with a stick.
you tell me who is more qualified to speak about engineering.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:49 PM
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You're right about raw power...but with the Vishnu ECU, the 335i will be making about 360 RWHP and 380 RWTQ, which, for a daily, is quite a bit. The overwhelmingly superior build quality inside and out really make the 335i stand out more than the Corvette.
I can't get over the terrible interior in the Corvette. 
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build quality my ass. My roommates 325xi has an interior on par with the C6.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:49 PM
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You're right about raw power...but with the Vishnu ECU, the 335i will be making about 360 RWHP and 380 RWTQ, which, for a daily, is quite a bit. The overwhelmingly superior build quality inside and out really make the 335i stand out more than the Corvette.
I can't get over the terrible interior in the Corvette. 
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Unless I'm terribly mistaken, a 335i will never come close to out handling a C6 either.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:49 PM
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Quote:
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You're right about raw power...but with the Vishnu ECU, the 335i will be making about 360 RWHP and 380 RWTQ, which, for a daily, is quite a bit. The overwhelmingly superior build quality inside and out really make the 335i stand out more than the Corvette.
I can't get over the terrible interior in the Corvette. 
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I'm not going to get into the build quality of BMWs.
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March 16th, 2007, 06:51 PM
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Unless I'm terribly mistaken, a 335i will never come close to out handling a C6 either.
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I believe Rob was talking about daily drivers. 335i will handle just fine for a daily driver.
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