LS2 Discussion...

**2001Z28M6** · April 21st, 2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

I wish you guys realized how much FTL Elmer and Borla as admins are. Neither of them give two s***s about the automotive portion of the site, and Borla had less than 100 automotive related posts his entire time on the site.

Fair moderation would be great in there if it were a site that was geared towards all cars, but it's not. Biased moderation actually helps the site acheive it's focus. To be perfectly honest, there was absolutely no f***ing reason whatsoever I should have had to create CG in order to save automotive content on the site.

If you have any question about how a car board SHOULD be run, just take a look at LS1TECH.COM, or LS1GTO/LS2GTO.COM.

Borla is a lil' b****.

Elmer is a f***ing old douche bag who doesn't know how to run such a forum.

I'm almost sad that LS2 will be history soon. LS1/LS2 was my home for almost 6 years and now, I have no real home.

**Joey** · April 21st, 2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 2001Z28M6

LS2 was my home for almost 6 years and now

Ditto, now this place is home. It's much more chill, much more your style, I think.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 21st, 2007, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2001Z28M6

I'm almost sad that LS2 will be history soon. LS1/LS2 was my home for almost 6 years and now, I have no real home.

become a regular here. same familiar faces, much cooler atmosphere, no douchebag mods/admins.

**2001Z28M6** · April 21st, 2007, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

become a regular here. same familiar faces, much cooler atmosphere, no douchebag mods/admins.

I check this place more and more frequently....

It would be cool to be a part of this place if it ended up expanding into something much bigger.

Maybe I'm just used to the big forum environment

**Harmon Rabb** · April 21st, 2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 2001Z28M6

I check this place more and more frequently....

It would be cool to be a part of this place if it ended up expanding into something much bigger.

Maybe I'm just used to the big forum environment

this place is ever expanding

**Joey** · April 21st, 2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

this place is ever expanding

Yup

**2001Z28M6** · April 21st, 2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

this place is ever expanding

Werd, I've noticed.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001Z28M6

Werd, I've noticed.

now you just need to bang a

or two and you can be one of us

**2001Z28M6** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

now you just need to bang a

or two and you can be one of us

Define

I may have done it, or one on the verge.

**2001Z28M6** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:13 AM

But I was on cialis of course, as women who aren't slim don't excite me as much. Cialis makes you insane even with a bum.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001Z28M6

Define

I may have done it, or one on the verge.

==

**Ryan33** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:15 AM

I got s*** on and flamed to all hell when I brought this up. I agree 100%.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001Z28M6

But I was on cialis of course, as women who aren't slim don't excite me as much. Cialis makes you insane even with a bum.

cialis ftmfw

actually, i don't even use cialis anymore. only levitra from now on. same effect, same lack of side effects, no random wood the next day.

**2001Z28M6** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

cialis ftmfw

actually, i don't even use cialis anymore. only levitra from now on. same effect, same lack of side effects, no random wood the next day.

Yea, that's a big reason I stopped the cialis.

I'd go with levitra if I use that stuff again.

At least I function fine normally.....cept when I get pretty drunk.

But then again, it's the perfect anti-whiskey d***.....so I may have to get some on hand.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001Z28M6

Yea, that's a big reason I stopped the cialis.

I'd go with levitra if I use that stuff again.

At least I function fine normally.....cept when I get pretty drunk.

But then again, it's the perfect anti-whiskey d***.....so I may have to get some on hand.

i function fine normally as well. however, if i'm drunk, if it's the first time with a girl, or if it's an all night bangathon, i take some levitra

**2001Z28M6** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

i function fine normally as well. however, if i'm drunk, if it's the first time with a girl, or if it's an all night bangathon, i take some levitra

Jackasses like Jackass Daniels talks s*** in topics like these, saying that he don't need any boost and that it's gonna hurt you when you stop using it.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001Z28M6

Jackasses like Jackass Daniels talks s*** in topics like these, saying that he don't need any boost and that it's gonna hurt you when you stop using it.

keyboard cowboy.

**2001Z28M6** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

keyboard cowboy.

I bet his daughters are very proper, have much grace and are well-behaved.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 2001Z28M6

I bet his daughters are very proper, have much grace and are well-behaved.

jd's realistic, man. he knows that i'm his future son in law. he has an 18 year old daughter who looks like avril lavigne

**Moe** · April 22nd, 2007, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

jd's realistic, man. he knows that i'm his future son in law. he has an 18 year old daughter who looks like avril lavigne

**SpeedsterZ28** · April 22nd, 2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

cialis ftmfw

actually, i don't even use cialis anymore. only levitra from now on. same effect, same lack of side effects, no random wood the next day.

I've never had any side effects from the LiquiCia.

But after taking it on a Friday in anticipation of the weekend and still having frequent random wood on Monday does get annoying.

There are worse problems in life, though, so I won't complain.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedsterZ28

I've never had any side effects from the LiquiCia.

me either. however, the liquid viagra tends to make me neausous and give me headaches. cialis and levitra ftmfw. viagra ftl.

**DrEvyl666** · April 22nd, 2007, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

except that's not what it is at all now. gm cars are nuthugged and all other makes and models are discussed. a few gm trolls try to ruin those other threads but otherwise it's great.

Hey, don't look at me for what it is NOW. I haven't influenced the direction of that site for the better part of the last year.

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the site may be more successful as a generic car site, actually. i think elmer and zed should consider that

I don't think they consider anything about the future of the site, to be perfectly honest. They have no plans, no goals, and no idea of where they want the site to go. I think I was one of the few people on the staff that actually thought having a plan for the future was something we needed to do.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

Hey, don't look at me for what it is NOW. I haven't influenced the direction of that site for the better part of the last year.

the cg would not be what it is now had you stayed there. you did that subforum a disservice by allowing and encouraging gm trolls. (although you did clean it up and get rid of the gm hating)

note: by gm trolls i don't mean someone who creates a thread making fun of ricers, slow mustangs, etc. that's to be expected and is acceptible on a gm forum. when i say gm troll, i mean guys like 5.0this, dwarf killer, and shuck who actively try to ruin quality threads about vehicles by other makes.

**BlackDemon** · April 22nd, 2007, 01:42 PM

dwarf killer, what a twat

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 01:52 PM

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dwarf killer, what a twat

**Cobra Commander** · April 22nd, 2007, 01:54 PM

I'm liking the Automotive News, Media & Press/Racer's Lounge combo at tech better now. CG is just too slow.

**Ern** · April 22nd, 2007, 02:34 PM

Not giving us the CG in the upper menu is retarded, but Elmer isn't going to relent on it, and it pisses me off everytime I go in there. I finally just bookmarked it as it's own entity.

**DrEvyl666** · April 22nd, 2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

the cg would not be what it is now had you stayed there. you did that subforum a disservice by allowing and encouraging gm trolls. (although you did clean it up and get rid of the gm hating)

I don't think you have any idea what I was doing, or why. You just look at right now, like Elmer, and don't see the forest through the trees... I got stopped from doing it midstream because people like you complained to the right people.

I had a definite plan... it involved intentionally pushing things a particular direction, and even involved creative trolling. Never had a chance to push it back the other way, so it kinda stuck there.

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note: by gm trolls i don't mean someone who creates a thread making fun of ricers, slow mustangs, etc. that's to be expected and is acceptible on a gm forum. when i say gm troll, i mean guys like 5.0this, dwarf killer, and shuck who actively try to ruin quality threads about vehicles by other makes.

It's funny that it was considered "entertainment" when it was large groups of people actively trying to ruin threads about GM stuff, and when the tables get turned on them they can't handle it.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

I don't think you have any idea what I was doing, or why. You just look at right now, like Elmer, and don't see the forest through the trees... I got stopped from doing it midstream because people like you complained to the right people.

i know exactly what you wanted to do. you wanted a site like ls1tech and you wanted rabid gm nuthugging going on.

fwiw, i didn't complain to anybody other than you. blame someone else.

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I had a definite plan... it involved intentionally pushing things a particular direction, and even involved creative trolling. Never had a chance to push it back the other way, so it kinda stuck there.

your plan was to run off 'ford trolls.' when you say you had no chance to push it back the other way, that boggles me, because everything you've ever said shows that you never wanted anything approaching fair moderation in the cg. your attitude was always: if said by a gm fanboy, it's not trolling. doesn't matter what he says or in what thread.

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It's funny that it was considered "entertainment" when it was large groups of people actively trying to ruin threads about GM stuff, and when the tables get turned on them they can't handle it.

i only contributed in a small way to that

**DrEvyl666** · April 22nd, 2007, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

i know exactly what you wanted to do. you wanted a site like ls1tech and you wanted rabid gm nuthugging going on.

If you believe that is what I wanted, you didn't know exactly what I was doing.

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your plan was to run off 'ford trolls.' when you say you had no chance to push it back the other way, that boggles me, because everything you've ever said shows that you never wanted anything approaching fair moderation in the cg. your attitude was always: if said by a gm fanboy, it's not trolling. doesn't matter what he says or in what thread.

Just like with any successful site, there is no such thing as someone being too into the products you promote. If the entire site was populated by GM fan boys, that sounds to me like a sponsor's dream. That's a win, not a loss.

I wasn't doing this s*** for your enjoyment... I was making an attempt to see that the sponsors weren't getting f***ed on the deal. Elmer apparently doesn't give a s*** if they sell so much as a dime worth of stuff as long as they're paying the sponsorship bill.... I personally couldn't take their money without giving them something back.

I actually spent a good portion of the money I made from the site on parts from our sponsors, and I never ever once asked for or took a discounted price on them. I figured I wouldn't give them a discount so who the f*** am I to ask for one from them, especially considering they were probably losing money on the deal as it was?

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i only contributed in a small way to that

But you did contribute nonetheless.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

Just like with any successful site, there is no such thing as someone being too into the products you promote. If the entire site was populated by GM fan boys, that sounds to me like a sponsor's dream. That's a win, not a loss.

i cannot argue with that. however, if said rabid gm fanboys run off a bunch of other gm owners by being rabid a******s, that's not good either.

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But you did contribute nonetheless.

note that i admitted it.

**DrEvyl666** · April 22nd, 2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

i cannot argue with that. however, if said rabid gm fanboys run off a bunch of other gm owners by being rabid a******s, that's not good either.

What are the last mods you bought for your car?

**jbss71** · April 22nd, 2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

What are the last mods you bought for your car?

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

'gay happens' stickers

**Cobra Commander** · April 22nd, 2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

What are the last mods you bought for your car?

The results of that poll thread I made about your last purchase from the sponsors were abysmal.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

What are the last mods you bought for your car?

cold air intake and a 'priority start' to ward against dead battery syndrome.

**DrEvyl666** · April 22nd, 2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

cold air intake and a 'priority start' to ward against dead battery syndrome.

Damn dude, don't break the bank.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 22nd, 2007, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

Damn dude, don't break the bank.

i'm over having a loud cammed daily driver

as are you. you daily drive a stock ass gto.

**DrEvyl666** · April 22nd, 2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

i'm over having a loud cammed daily driver

Who said anything about having a loud cammed daily driver?

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as are you. you daily drive a stock ass gto.

Yeah, but I have three cars and didn't mod it because I spent $5K on mods for the other cars in the last two months.

Not to mention that I'm getting pretty close to having $20K into the Formula at this point.

**Stanky Rich** · April 22nd, 2007, 10:57 PM

mods != car enthusiast

**Moe** · April 22nd, 2007, 11:24 PM

You all are missing one hell of an fbj69 thread over there now.

**Stanky Rich** · April 23rd, 2007, 12:02 AM

ls2 is a s*** hole now-a-days. the nitrean thread and 72tornado's evo thread are prime examples of the stupidity that runs rampant on ls2.

**DrEvyl666** · April 23rd, 2007, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Terror

mods != car enthusiast

!mods = broke d*** / cheap ass motherf***er that doesn't buy from sponsors.

When sponsors pay me to run a site, my only concern is making sure they make their money back... and people that don't buy s*** from them can f*** right the hell off as far as I'm concerned.

**DrEvyl666** · April 23rd, 2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

You all are missing one hell of an fbj69 thread over there now.

[Peter Gibbons]

I wouldn't say I've been "missing" it, Bob...

[/Peter Gibbons]

**Stanky Rich** · April 23rd, 2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

!mods = broke d*** / cheap ass motherf***er that doesn't buy from sponsors.

not wanting to buy mods means said person is broke and/or a cheap ass? right.

**DrEvyl666** · April 23rd, 2007, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Terror

not wanting to buy mods means said person is broke and/or a cheap ass? right.

Yep.. or that they're not really a car enthusiast. They're just a f***in spectator.

**Stanky Rich** · April 23rd, 2007, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

Yep.. or that they're not really a car enthusiast. They're just a f***in spectator.

**sourappletini** · April 23rd, 2007, 06:24 AM

I am surprised it took this long... good choice

**Cobra Commander** · April 23rd, 2007, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

Yep.. or that they're not really a car enthusiast. They're just a f***in spectator.

exactly why LS2 was doomed after it lost the GTO people to ls1/2gto.com

**Botz99ss** · April 23rd, 2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

Yep.. or that they're not really a car enthusiast. They're just a f***in spectator.

This could be your dumbest comment ever. Some people are over modding there cars, they got tired of that point in there lifes and moved on.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 23rd, 2007, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

This could be your dumbest comment ever. Some people are over modding there cars, they got tired of that point in there lifes and moved on.

he does have a point that those of us like that are fairly worthless when it comes to running a site like a business. if someone isn't going to buy stuff from a sponsor... why should a forum owner care too much if that person is on the site or not?

**Cobra Commander** · April 23rd, 2007, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

This could be your dumbest comment ever. Some people are over modding there cars, they got tired of that point in there lifes and moved on.

not rly

These are the people that owners don't need to cater to. Evyl is right.

**Botz99ss** · April 23rd, 2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

he does have a point that those of us like that are fairly worthless when it comes to running a site like a business. if someone isn't going to buy stuff from a sponsor... why should a forum owner care too much if that person is on the site or not?

Those same people that have modded there cars in the past can still help people and recommend things to buy.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 23rd, 2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

Those same people that have modded there cars in the past can still help people and recommend things to buy.

eh. we help with showing the site generates traffic and maybe in recommending a good sponsor (ex: speed, inc. treated me awesome and i honestly would recommend them to anybody looking to order parts), but when we're not out there buying s***, we're fairly worthless.

the guys who owners really want are guys who spend $10k on parts from a sponsor, install them, go out and run some great times, then post up their results.

**Jack Daniels** · April 23rd, 2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

Yep.. or that they're not really a car enthusiast. They're just a f***in spectator.

LOL. I've been an enthusiast all my life but haven't touched my GTO. Oh wait, I did the !CAGS. I guess I'm a real car guy after all.

**Botz99ss** · April 23rd, 2007, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

eh. we help with showing the site generates traffic and maybe in recommending a good sponsor (ex: speed, inc. treated me awesome and i honestly would recommend them to anybody looking to order parts), but when we're not out there buying s***, we're fairly worthless.

the guys who owners really want are guys who spend $10k on parts from a sponsor, install them, go out and run some great times, then post up their results.

How many people where doing that though? Steve1969LS2 spends a lot of money and Evyl said he spent a lot but not many others are. When I was modding my car I always looked for people that dealt with a sponsor and if they had good experience with them I would shop with them. I think in the long term and sponsor would make more money from a lot of people spending a couple hundred bucks then a select few that spend $10k.

**Cobra Commander** · April 23rd, 2007, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

How many people where doing that though? Steve1969LS2 spends a lot of money and Evyl said he spent a lot but not many others are. When I was modding my car I always looked for people that dealt with a sponsor and if they had good experience with them I would shop with them. I think in the long term and sponsor would make more money from a lot of people spending a couple hundred bucks then a select few that spend $10k.

2000 Tran Zam
JohnnyZ28
Evyl
Eboggs
kh24

**Botz99ss** · April 23rd, 2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra Commander

2000 Tran Zam
JohnnyZ28
Evyl
Eboggs
kh24

There are hundreds if not a thousand people that have spent a few hundred to a grand or two. That would make more money in the end for a sponsor.

**Stanky Rich** · April 23rd, 2007, 01:24 PM

just because someone doesn't mod their car anymore doesn't make them worthless. they have knowledge and know-how because they once did mod their cars. technical information is what drives a site, and that is why ls2 is failing so miserably.

**426HEMI** · April 23rd, 2007, 02:57 PM

Some of ya'll make it sound as if LS2 will go under tomorrow.