What does Settlemire bring to LS2? The same as he brings to any other enthusiast site - perceived credibility. Is that reality? Nope. Does his participation in any way bring traffic? Nope, but the powers that be would like to think it does. They can tout "we have the Camaro brand manager as an active member" to sponsors.
To be fair he does bring a bit more than that, at least to cz28 (I never read CG at LS2). Obviously he cannot say anything that wouldn't be permitted by corporate, but that doesn't mean he doesn't contribute. He's often said "no" when speculation about something is going in the wrong direction. He provides information on processes and how things work inside a car company, which can help people make better informed guesses. And he's organized/appeared at many events for enthusiasts to get together and talk about cars. I've met Scott and we chatted for about an hour at dinner once, and he's a very smart, passionate car guy who's no more happy about the lack of progress or the GM bureaucracy than we are. But that hasn't stopped me from arguing with him in threads or being annoyed by his nuthuggers.
This is all Evyl's fault. You know it is. He's sitting back right now playing Guitar Hero smiling and laughing.
Actually I suspect he could give a s*** less. He said we would see what it would be like and it's starting to come true I guess.
You'd be right... I couldn't really care less about what problems there are now, in fact the more problems there are, the better. They said I was the source of all their problems, and now I'm gone and don't even visit... but somehow the problems are still there and as blatant as ever.
That gives me a lot of vindication... and combined with watching them undo things I did and having them fail on them... yeah, it does make me smile. And I am glad that I don't have to worry about Elmer trying to f*** me out of my money now.
I wish I was playing Guitar Hero, though.. I gotta get a copy for myself.
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Do your first 2 years at community college. That's what I'd do if I had to do it again.
You'd be right... I couldn't really care less about what problems there are now, in fact the more problems there are, the better. They said I was the source of all their problems, and now I'm gone and don't even visit... but somehow the problems are still there and as blatant as ever.
That gives me a lot of vindication... and combined with watching them undo things I did and having them fail on them... yeah, it does make me smile.
I wish I was playing Guitar Hero, though.. I gotta get a copy for myself.
You'd be right... I couldn't really care less about what problems there are now, in fact the more problems there are, the better. They said I was the source of all their problems, and now I'm gone and don't even visit... but somehow the problems are still there and as blatant as ever.
That gives me a lot of vindication... and combined with watching them undo things I did and having them fail on them... yeah, it does make me smile.
I wish I was playing Guitar Hero, though.. I gotta get a copy for myself.
No, I'm f***ing ecstatic that I'm no longer a part of that website, and even more ecstatic that I've been paid in full and no longer have to watch what I say for fear that the old codger would try to f*** me out of payment.
I tried for ages to make it less of a f***ing joke, and set up my other site in June of 2006 with the intention of leaving LS2. Problem was that the other owners of LS2 would not buy me out, and wouldn't approve me selling my share. If I had stayed, there would have been SWEEPING changes.... like, for example, I would have s***canned about half the moderator staff.... and Zed found it much easier to take the Elmer approach (do nothing) than to take my approach (clean house big time).
If I was ever bitter about anything regarding LS2 it was that my name was being associated with what was probably the most laughable car site on the internet.... and now it isn't... and I was able to sell my interest in it.
If I was ever bitter about anything regarding LS2 it was that my name was being associated with what was probably the most laughable car site on the internet.... and now it isn't...
If you claim you feel that way, why don't you ask them to take your name off the "logo design" credits?
Because I made them license my artwork from me. Very common practice in the creative field.
So it's okay to have your name displayed for the artwork, but you won't even go to the website because you don't want to give them the hits, and their "problems give you vindication?" That makes no f***ing sense. The "I don't want my name associated with their website" ruse is just a pathetic attempt to make yourself feel better about what really happened, and you approving them to use your name for the artwork is proof beyond any doubt of that.
I laugh when that p**** says it doesn't bother him. He made several threats to shut down the site, he threatened to take Elmer and Edwin to court but after they showed him his previous emails, he probably thought it wouldn't look so good in court that he was doing all the threatening. He sent about three page-long emails about how he was the only thing keeping Ls2 going and people only came there because they respected him and how he ran the place. He took out several hacks he made and also tried to stop payment on the checks for the servers to make the site look bad. For a guy who supposedly didn't care, instead of quietly being bought on and moving on, he sure cried a fit on the board and off it.
Before he left, he sent mass emails to the ENTIRE LS2 MEMBERSHIP to inform them that he was leaving and if they wanted a more appropriate board to visit HoE and I don't know this for sure but I heard about 30 people signed up. So much for all that support eh, Zeke? I just want to throw this in to show what kind of a scumbag Evyl is: To top things off, one of the members on his board is one of most vile people to ever come to an Lsx board: VBeach Cruzer. Yeah, the guy that stalked and threatened a female member back on Ls1.
So this jerkoff tries to keep doing his ls2 radio show but with no ls2 membership to pimp it too, he had no callers, no listeners, blah blah blah, so thats no more either.
Ls2 was just about Evyl's only connection to any real social companionship. He abused his power daily to keep everyone as "his friend" and in line. The minute he left was a huge relief to about 98% of the Ls2 membership. Some nuthuggers hung on because they figured he'd be back but they've faded away or at least keep it quiet because they realize he wasn't such a cracked-up guy.
The mod staff is so f***ed right now because he controlled the hiring of mods. He drove off all the people who would realistically be fair mods. When he left, those people were gone, not to mention several mods that he drove off or directly made leave the site, a group of mods was needed, so we're in the position we're in now. That's why the site is going downhill because the mods were chosen poorly because of a position Zeke put them in.
I'm sure the site will be gone within a year but this time there's plenty of other sites out there to keep going. Eventually someone will try to start a new Lsx site, maybe it will be a hit, maybe it won't but who really gives a s***? Jesus christ, get out and drive your f***ing car.
I laugh when that p**** says it doesn't bother him. He made several threats to shut down the site, he threatened to take Elmer and Edwin to court but after they showed him his previous emails, he probably thought it wouldn't look so good in court that he was doing all the threatening. He sent about three page-long emails about how he was the only thing keeping Ls2 going and people only came there because they respected him and how he ran the place. He took out several hacks he made and also tried to stop payment on the checks for the servers to make the site look bad. For a guy who supposedly didn't care, instead of quietly being bought on and moving on, he sure cried a fit on the board and off it.
Before he left, he sent mass emails to the ENTIRE LS2 MEMBERSHIP to inform them that he was leaving and if they wanted a more appropriate board to visit HoE and I don't know this for sure but I heard about 30 people signed up. So much for all that support eh, Zeke? I just want to throw this in to show what kind of a scumbag Evyl is: To top things off, one of the members on his board is one of most vile people to ever come to an Lsx board: VBeach Cruzer. Yeah, the guy that stalked and threatened a female member back on Ls1.
So this jerkoff tries to keep doing his ls2 radio show but with no ls2 membership to pimp it too, he had no callers, no listeners, blah blah blah, so thats no more either.
Ls2 was just about Evyl's only connection to any real social companionship. He abused his power daily to keep everyone as "his friend" and in line. The minute he left was a huge relief to about 98% of the Ls2 membership. Some nuthuggers hung on because they figured he'd be back but they've faded away or at least keep it quiet because they realize he wasn't such a cracked-up guy.
The mod staff is so f***ed right now because he controlled the hiring of mods. He drove off all the people who would realistically be fair mods. When he left, those people were gone, not to mention several mods that he drove off or directly made leave the site, a group of mods was needed, so we're in the position we're in now. That's why the site is going downhill because the mods were chosen poorly because of a position Zeke put them in.
I'm sure the site will be gone within a year but this time there's plenty of other sites out there to keep going. Eventually someone will try to start a new Lsx site, maybe it will be a hit, maybe it won't but who really gives a s***? Jesus christ, get out and drive your f***ing car.
you're a worthless piece of s***. go troll LS2. Everyone knows that Zed hired people because he needed a piece of ass during the LSx get togethers.
So it's okay to have your name displayed for the artwork, but you won't even go to the website because you don't want to give them the hits, and their "problems give you vindication?" That makes no f***ing sense. The "I don't want my name associated with their website" ruse is just a pathetic attempt to make yourself feel better about what really happened, and you approving them to use your name for the artwork is proof beyond any doubt of that.
I originally asked them to change the logo, or change the name of the site, and that was a compromise. I agreed to continue letting them use my artwork as long as they gave me credit for it.
I really don't care if it makes sense to you, it makes perfect sense from a creative / copyright standpoint.
I laugh when that p**** says it doesn't bother him. He made several threats to shut down the site, he threatened to take Elmer and Edwin to court but after they showed him his previous emails, he probably thought it wouldn't look so good in court that he was doing all the threatening. He sent about three page-long emails about how he was the only thing keeping Ls2 going and people only came there because they respected him and how he ran the place. He took out several hacks he made and also tried to stop payment on the checks for the servers to make the site look bad. For a guy who supposedly didn't care, instead of quietly being bought on and moving on, he sure cried a fit on the board and off it.
Before he left, he sent mass emails to the ENTIRE LS2 MEMBERSHIP to inform them that he was leaving and if they wanted a more appropriate board to visit HoE and I don't know this for sure but I heard about 30 people signed up. So much for all that support eh, Zeke? I just want to throw this in to show what kind of a scumbag Evyl is: To top things off, one of the members on his board is one of most vile people to ever come to an Lsx board: VBeach Cruzer. Yeah, the guy that stalked and threatened a female member back on Ls1.
So this jerkoff tries to keep doing his ls2 radio show but with no ls2 membership to pimp it too, he had no callers, no listeners, blah blah blah, so thats no more either.
Ls2 was just about Evyl's only connection to any real social companionship. He abused his power daily to keep everyone as "his friend" and in line. The minute he left was a huge relief to about 98% of the Ls2 membership. Some nuthuggers hung on because they figured he'd be back but they've faded away or at least keep it quiet because they realize he wasn't such a cracked-up guy.
The mod staff is so f***ed right now because he controlled the hiring of mods. He drove off all the people who would realistically be fair mods. When he left, those people were gone, not to mention several mods that he drove off or directly made leave the site, a group of mods was needed, so we're in the position we're in now. That's why the site is going downhill because the mods were chosen poorly because of a position Zeke put them in.
I'm sure the site will be gone within a year but this time there's plenty of other sites out there to keep going. Eventually someone will try to start a new Lsx site, maybe it will be a hit, maybe it won't but who really gives a s***? Jesus christ, get out and drive your f***ing car.
I see your imagination is just as vivid as ever... because that's probably the biggest bunch of troll horses*** ever created.
For the record..
- There is nothing I have ever sent in email regarding LS2 that would worry me in court.
- I never made any threat to shut down the site... I made money on it, that makes no f***ing sense.
- I did threaten to take Elmer & Edwin to court, but it was because they weren't paying me after they agreed to.
- I did not make any hacks for LS2 whatsoever.
- The server was paid for from a central account I did not have control over.
- If Elmer and Zed offered to buy me out, I would have gladly taken it.
- I never emailed anyone when I left.
- I did not have access to mass email anyone, and didn't know I was leaving until AFTER the fact.
- I haven't invited anyone to HOE in years.
- VBeach has been a member of HOE for 7 years, and has never caused any problems there.
- The whole story with VBeach is grossly exaggerated.
- The "Elmer" show was the last LS2 show I ever did, which was aired on 12/10/06 before I left LS2.
- I still have a very healthy audience for my radio show.
- I certainly do not rely on the internet for "social companionship".
- I had almost zero control over who became moderators. They were elected democratically.
- They lost exactly 3 moderators when I left.
- I drive a LSx car ever day, and all three of my cars have been driven in the last week.
I laugh when that p**** says it doesn't bother him. He made several threats to shut down the site, he threatened to take Elmer and Edwin to court but after they showed him his previous emails, he probably thought it wouldn't look so good in court that he was doing all the threatening. He sent about three page-long emails about how he was the only thing keeping Ls2 going and people only came there because they respected him and how he ran the place. He took out several hacks he made and also tried to stop payment on the checks for the servers to make the site look bad. For a guy who supposedly didn't care, instead of quietly being bought on and moving on, he sure cried a fit on the board and off it.
Before he left, he sent mass emails to the ENTIRE LS2 MEMBERSHIP to inform them that he was leaving and if they wanted a more appropriate board to visit HoE and I don't know this for sure but I heard about 30 people signed up. So much for all that support eh, Zeke? I just want to throw this in to show what kind of a scumbag Evyl is: To top things off, one of the members on his board is one of most vile people to ever come to an Lsx board: VBeach Cruzer. Yeah, the guy that stalked and threatened a female member back on Ls1.
So this jerkoff tries to keep doing his ls2 radio show but with no ls2 membership to pimp it too, he had no callers, no listeners, blah blah blah, so thats no more either.
Ls2 was just about Evyl's only connection to any real social companionship. He abused his power daily to keep everyone as "his friend" and in line. The minute he left was a huge relief to about 98% of the Ls2 membership. Some nuthuggers hung on because they figured he'd be back but they've faded away or at least keep it quiet because they realize he wasn't such a cracked-up guy.
The mod staff is so f***ed right now because he controlled the hiring of mods. He drove off all the people who would realistically be fair mods. When he left, those people were gone, not to mention several mods that he drove off or directly made leave the site, a group of mods was needed, so we're in the position we're in now. That's why the site is going downhill because the mods were chosen poorly because of a position Zeke put them in.
I'm sure the site will be gone within a year but this time there's plenty of other sites out there to keep going. Eventually someone will try to start a new Lsx site, maybe it will be a hit, maybe it won't but who really gives a s***? Jesus christ, get out and drive your f***ing car.
this post makes me wanna take a s***
nobody i know got an email so your either wrong or a f***ing liar
nobody i know got an email so your either wrong or a f***ing liar
To say this guy is a liar is kinda like saying Hitler killed a few people. He is the biggest troll that ever had anything to do with LS2. This is the guy that went around in the AIM chat room trying to get people to believe whatever bizarre horses*** his mind could dream up.
While were b****ing, i f***ing hate NBMWSsix, that f***er thread banned me told me to talk to him in PMs and then i did and he stunned me because of my PM's.. That being said, i have not been stunned or warned in a long time.
While were b****ing, i f***ing hate NBMWSsix, that f***er thread banned me told me to talk to him in PMs and then i did and he stunned me because of my PM's.. That being said, i have not been stunned or warned in a long time.
He is a d*** and if you even mention s*** about illegals or how nasty they are dude will follow you around.
To say this guy is a liar is kinda like saying Hitler killed a few people. He is the biggest troll that ever had anything to do with LS2. This is the guy that went around in the AIM chat room trying to get people to believe whatever bizarre horses*** his mind could dream up.
I laugh when that p**** says it doesn't bother him. He made several threats to shut down the site, he threatened to take Elmer and Edwin to court but after they showed him his previous emails, he probably thought it wouldn't look so good in court that he was doing all the threatening. He sent about three page-long emails about how he was the only thing keeping Ls2 going and people only came there because they respected him and how he ran the place. He took out several hacks he made and also tried to stop payment on the checks for the servers to make the site look bad. For a guy who supposedly didn't care, instead of quietly being bought on and moving on, he sure cried a fit on the board and off it.
Before he left, he sent mass emails to the ENTIRE LS2 MEMBERSHIP to inform them that he was leaving and if they wanted a more appropriate board to visit HoE and I don't know this for sure but I heard about 30 people signed up.
You're full of s*** on that one. I never received such a PM.
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Originally Posted by CaptainFarrell
So much for all that support eh, Zeke? I just want to throw this in to show what kind of a scumbag Evyl is: To top things off, one of the members on his board is one of most vile people to ever come to an Lsx board: VBeach Cruzer. Yeah, the guy that stalked and threatened a female member back on Ls1.
So this jerkoff tries to keep doing his ls2 radio show but with no ls2 membership to pimp it too, he had no callers, no listeners, blah blah blah, so thats no more either.
Who told you his radio show is no more? Because they are mistaken.
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Originally Posted by CaptainFarrell
Ls2 was just about Evyl's only connection to any real social companionship. He abused his power daily to keep everyone as "his friend" and in line. The minute he left was a huge relief to about 98% of the Ls2 membership. Some nuthuggers hung on because they figured he'd be back but they've faded away or at least keep it quiet because they realize he wasn't such a cracked-up guy.
Some people spoke up and gave opinions on the way the other owners handled the situation. It was f***ed up. There's no getting around that.
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The mod staff is so f***ed right now because he controlled the hiring of mods. He drove off all the people who would realistically be fair mods. When he left, those people were gone, not to mention several mods that he drove off or directly made leave the site, a group of mods was needed, so we're in the position we're in now. That's why the site is going downhill because the mods were chosen poorly because of a position Zeke put them in.
Borla & Elmer control the mod staff now. And they are being f***ing ridiculous with some of the BS they are doing. None of the stuff going on over there now has a damn thing to do with Evyl.
And to clarify, not ALL of the mod staff are doing a bad job. There are some good ones there. They tend to be a little more low-key than the iron-fisted bunch.
And since when are the mods hired?
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I'm sure the site will be gone within a year but this time there's plenty of other sites out there to keep going. Eventually someone will try to start a new Lsx site, maybe it will be a hit, maybe it won't but who really gives a s***? Jesus christ, get out and drive your f***ing car.
If the site is gone within a year (which wouldn't surprise me), it will be because of how it's currently being run period. Elmer getting his depends in a bunch and going off like he does, his son doing dip-s*** things, selective moderation, selective rule enforcement, making up rules as they go along, treating "certain members teehee" as though they are so god-damned special while s***ting on others, etc. are the things that will kill that place sooner than later. And since the end of last year, not a single one of those actions can be put on Evyl.
Oh and Captain, in case you think I am an Evyl nut-hugger, look around this place a little. I call them like I see them period. And you are the one who is full of s*** on this issue.
Some dumbs*** troll f***tard. That's about all you can really say about him.
I don't think anyone knows who he really is.... probably some zit faced goober with no life. He bounces around several of the main boards in the LSx world, I dunno where else. This is pretty much his motif... he makes up really wild stories about what "really happened", or pretends to be people he thinks are "e-famous" in those communities, and posts / IMs s*** like this to piss people off. He seems to have a particular fascination with me.
I believe this is the same troll that convinced FlyBono I permabanned him by pretending to be me on CamaroZ28.com. I believe he's also the one that bigrus believed to be my troll on LS1.COM.
While were b****ing, i f***ing hate NBMWSsix, that f***er thread banned me told me to talk to him in PMs and then i did and he stunned me because of my PM's.. That being said, i have not been stunned or warned in a long time.
I used to have a big problem with him moderating in BnG. He knew his s*** when it came to transmissions, but not a thing when it came to dealing with the drama.
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