LS2 Discussion...

**Cobra Commander** · April 23rd, 2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Terror

just because someone doesn't mod their car anymore doesn't make them worthless. they have knowledge and know-how because they once did mod their cars. technical information is what drives a site, and that is why ls2 is failing so miserably.

The people that really know their s*** are either mods or work for a sponsor.

(at tech)

**DrEvyl666** · April 23rd, 2007, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Botz99ss

This could be your dumbest comment ever. Some people are over modding there cars, they got tired of that point in there lifes and moved on.

I don't see how that's a dumb comment from a BUSINESS standpoint of an OWNER. People who mod their cars buy parts from sponsors who pay you to advertise. If people are "over" modding their cars, they aren't buying parts, the sponsors aren't making money and the board goes under because no one is gonna pay out of pocket for the bandwidth for someone to sit there and BS with their friends like a leech that doesn't contribute.

In fact, the dumbest comment ever is that people are "over" modding their cars... if they aren't there for cars, what the hell are they doing on a car board? Go be "over" modding cars on a f***in off-topic site, ya nimrods!

To think that a "car site" should even cater to these people in the slightest way is the most ludicrous idea ever!!

**DrEvyl666** · April 23rd, 2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Terror

just because someone doesn't mod their car anymore doesn't make them worthless. they have knowledge and know-how because they once did mod their cars. technical information is what drives a site, and that is why ls2 is failing so miserably.

The technical knowledge is there... those people would just rather post on TECH because it's obvious that LS2 don't give a flying s*** about them, and LS1TECH is so much more supportive of the community... where LS2 is just a bunch of post w****s who are completely worthless to the sponsors for the most part, and that's all a good chunk of the staff really give a f*** about.

From the standpoint of a business owner, someone who doesn't mod their car IS completely worthless.

**Anthony** · April 23rd, 2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 426HEMI

Some of ya'll make it sound as if LS2 will go under tomorrow.

It won't go under tomorrow, but I have my doubts that they will go far beyond 2008. Didn't Elmer allude to the fact that 2007 was paid for, but after that "we'll see?"

**426HEMI** · April 24th, 2007, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by anthony6377

It won't go under tomorrow, but I have my doubts that they will go far beyond 2008. Didn't Elmer allude to the fact that 2007 was paid for, but after that "we'll see?"

Didn't see that.

**Nick** · April 24th, 2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 426HEMI

Didn't see that.

It's true. I copied the quote here somewhere. Let me see if I can find it.

edit: Can't find it... He said something to the effect of "2007 is taken care of. We'll see about 2008."

**DrEvyl666** · April 24th, 2007, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by anthony6377

It won't go under tomorrow, but I have my doubts that they will go far beyond 2008. Didn't Elmer allude to the fact that 2007 was paid for, but after that "we'll see?"

He has no plan, so it would stand to reason that he can't forsee where they'll be in a year. Of course, he's probably more thinking about whether he's gonna still be alive in a year... old f***er should just retire and let someone who knows what the f*** they're doing drive the bus instead of him putting around the block in it.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 24th, 2007, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

He has no plan, so it would stand to reason that he can't forsee where they'll be in a year. Of course, he's probably more thinking about whether he's gonna still be alive in a year... old f***er should just retire and let someone who knows what the f*** they're doing drive the bus instead of him putting around the block in it.

**426HEMI** · April 24th, 2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Get Shorty

It's true. I copied the quote here somewhere. Let me see if I can find it.

edit: Can't find it... He said something to the effect of "2007 is taken care of. We'll see about 2008."

IF LS2 were to die, I think it would be more of a long drawn out death like cancer, rather than a beheadding.

**Nick** · April 24th, 2007, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 426HEMI

IF LS2 were to die, I think it would be more of a long drawn out death like cancer, rather than a beheadding.

I think you're probably right.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 24th, 2007, 01:40 PM

respond to this thread: http://www.ls2.com/forums/showthread...16#post8246616

**FNA** · April 24th, 2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 426HEMI

IF LS2 were to die, I think it would be more of a long drawn out death like cancer, rather than a beheadding.

LS1.com is still up and running, so I doubt that LS2 would ever die out completely unless the owners just decided to stop paying the bills.

**426HEMI** · April 24th, 2007, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

respond to this thread: LS2 Forums - Toyota overtakes GM as 'world's largest carmaker'

Why?

**2001Z28M6** · April 24th, 2007, 04:14 PM

Why the f*** do threads go to the archives so quick?

f***ing cheap f***ers claimed the site was going to be powerful and normal, but it's turning into LS1 s***.

**DrEvyl666** · April 24th, 2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 2001Z28M6

Why the f*** do threads go to the archives so quick?

f***ing cheap f***ers claimed the site was going to be powerful and normal, but it's turning into LS1 s***.

It is not a limitation of the server, it is a limitation of VBB/MySQL and how it handles load and searches. The hardware they are running *IS* light years beyond what LS1.COM is running... I picked the server out, and it's plenty beefy for what they are using it for.... anything more would be overkill and wouldn't correct the issues.

**Cobra Commander** · April 24th, 2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

respond to this thread: http://www.ls2.com/forums/showthread...16#post8246616

No, it doesn't. I'll give you one guess why.

**Stanky Rich** · April 24th, 2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

respond to this thread: LS2 Forums - Toyota overtakes GM as 'world's largest carmaker'

every debate thread exhibits one's tremendous stupidity and this time it was QWIKLS1.

**Nick** · April 24th, 2007, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

It is not a limitation of the server, it is a limitation of VBB/MySQL and how it handles load and searches. The hardware they are running *IS* light years beyond what LS1.COM is running... I picked the server out, and it's plenty beefy for what they are using it for.... anything more would be overkill and wouldn't correct the issues.

According to Zed, upgrading vBulletin to a newer version is out of the question because it's less efficient than VB2. I don't think he can tweak VB2 more than he already has, so the only other solution would be more server power, right?

**DrEvyl666** · April 24th, 2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Get Shorty

According to Zed, upgrading vBulletin to a newer version is out of the question because it's less efficient than VB2. I don't think he can tweak VB2 more than he already has, so the only other solution would be more server power, right?

Honestly, I think the issue there is partially that he doesn't want to take the time to relearn how to do things, since vbb3 is so much different than vbb2. I think they look at LS1TECH and assume they'll have the same problems without considering that people hit the search on LS1TECH about 1000 times more than they do on LS2. Searches are f***ing hell on the database.

But yeah, if they increase the load much more, they will need a bigger server... but a server bottleneck is most definitely not one of their current issues.

**Nick** · April 24th, 2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

Honestly, I think the issue there is partially that he doesn't want to take the time to relearn how to do things, since vbb3 is so much different than vbb2. I think they look at LS1TECH and assume they'll have the same problems without considering that people hit the search on LS1TECH about 1000 times more than they do on LS2. Searches are f***ing hell on the database.

But yeah, if they increase the load much more, they will need a bigger server... but a server bottleneck is most definitely not one of their current issues.

He just doesn't like the plugin/hook system on VB3. He has a point too. It's great for small boards, but causes too much overhead for large boards. That can be disabled and hacks can be hardcoded the old fashioned way though. That's definitely not beyond his capability.

I have no idea why he really doesn't want to upgrade.

**DrEvyl666** · April 24th, 2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Get Shorty

He just doesn't like the plugin/hook system on VB3. He has a point too. It's great for small boards, but causes too much overhead for large boards. That can be disabled and hacks can be hardcoded the old fashioned way though. That's definitely not beyond his capability.

I have no idea why he really doesn't want to upgrade.

Me neither, but that's his thing so I was never one to question it. He's the one that has to work on it.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 24th, 2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Get Shorty

I have no idea why he really doesn't want to upgrade.

because it would take extra effort?

**jbss71** · April 24th, 2007, 07:36 PM

did you land all the big names MSD, Jegs and so on? also how much dose a place like ls2 cost a month to run? like if half the sponsers see whats happening and jump ship is ls2 f***ed?

i'm sure its been covered somewhere but i'm lazy

**Nick** · April 24th, 2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

because it would take extra effort?

Yeah. I just assumed he was too busy to do it.

**DrEvyl666** · April 24th, 2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jbss71

did you land all the big names MSD, Jegs and so on? also how much dose a place like ls2 cost a month to run? like if half the sponsers see whats happening and jump ship is ls2 f***ed?

i'm sure its been covered somewhere but i'm lazy

Zed did that... and MSD, Jegs, and the big names like that were a package deal.

When I was there, it cost $400/month for the server... and no, they could go down to about a dozen sponsors and still be profitable.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 24th, 2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

Zed did that... and MSD, Jegs, and the big names like that were a package deal.

When I was there, it cost $400/month for the server... and no, they could go down to about a dozen sponsors and still be profitable.

how much profit did the site really make at its peak?

**Zaheed** · April 24th, 2007, 08:18 PM

Mr. Evyl banned me like 3 years ago, and i haven't really gave a s***, but i need to find something out and none of the other forums i post on had what I needed, and LS2 simply does have a lot of traffic on it. So does someone wanna unban me?

**Jackal** · April 24th, 2007, 08:19 PM

admin@ls2.com

**Zaheed** · April 24th, 2007, 08:20 PM

ok thanks!

**Cobra Commander** · April 24th, 2007, 08:32 PM

No. The less jews the better.

**Stanky Rich** · April 24th, 2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra Commander

No. The less jews the better.

i lol'ed

**DrEvyl666** · April 25th, 2007, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab

how much profit did the site really make at its peak?

It was fairly consistent... I made about $6K/year over the course of 3 years.... I spent most of that on sponsorships and mods. My rule was that my LS2 money didn't get spent on anything non-automotive.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 25th, 2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

It was fairly consistent... I made about $6K/year over the course of 3 years.... I spent most of that on sponsorships and mods. My rule was that my LS2 money didn't get spent on anything non-automotive.

**TLayton** · April 25th, 2007, 03:19 PM

that dude is like a 15 yr. old girl. Check out his thread over at LS2, what a douche. It seems like every thread he makes is about how good lookin he is or what new girl he's got. I'm not impressed at all.

**bobanos** · April 25th, 2007, 03:19 PM

**TLayton** · April 25th, 2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bobanos

k

**Harmon Rabb** · April 25th, 2007, 03:23 PM

i couldn't even read that aim convo. the lack of grammar hurt my brain.

**shorgasm** · April 25th, 2007, 03:29 PM

You forgot how awesome his car is...yes the one his mommy bought him.

**TLayton** · April 25th, 2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Marvin

i couldn't even read that aim convo. the lack of grammar hurt my brain.

me either...i didn't think people actually talked like that

**Captain Obvious** · April 25th, 2007, 03:36 PM

I thought LS2 crap was to be kept to one thread?

Who f***ing cares anyway?

**Botz99ss** · April 25th, 2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

I thought LS2 crap was to be kept to one thread?

Who f***ing cares anyway?

/thread

**lucky_topher** · April 25th, 2007, 03:40 PM

**TLayton** · April 25th, 2007, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

I thought LS2 crap was to be kept to one thread?

Who f***ing cares anyway?

lol sorry, didn't know that

**TLayton** · April 25th, 2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky_topher

nah, just havin one of those days where it feels good to call someone out on their douchebaggery

**lucky_topher** · April 25th, 2007, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 97stalliongt

nah, just havin one of those days where it feels good to call someone out on their douchebaggery

good idea

your post was douchebaggery

**TLayton** · April 25th, 2007, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky_topher

good idea

your post was douchebaggery

**Nick** · April 25th, 2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 97stalliongt

lol sorry, didn't know that

Yeah, read my first post in this thread. We're trying to keep the LS2 presence down to a minimum.

**TLayton** · April 25th, 2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Get Shorty

Yeah, read my first post in this thread. We're trying to keep the LS2 presence down to a minimum.

I see that now. Duly noted.

Never even noticed this thread

**Nick** · April 25th, 2007, 03:55 PM

Not a problem.

**TLayton** · April 25th, 2007, 03:57 PM

I definitely enjoy posting here more than LS2...it seems to be kinda fading out over there

**jbss71** · April 26th, 2007, 04:20 PM

so whats this s*** berman bangs a w****, they kick evyl out and now no one wants to go to G11 from ls2 ?

**Pillamyd** · April 26th, 2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 97stalliongt

me either...i didn't think people actually talked like that

lol, i know. it is mind boggling.

**DrEvyl666** · April 26th, 2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jbss71

so whats this s*** berman bangs a w****, they kick evyl out and now no one wants to go to G11 from ls2 ?

You forgot the part where I used LS2's money to sponsor G11 in the name of my 5thGen site.

Go ahead, go look.. I'm a sponsor.

But none of them want to go because they can't handle the drama they create.... and if they all showed up, there would be much drama. Hell, I'd even create some of my own just for the drunken entertainment value. If Elmer was gonna show up, I think I'd probably have a field day.

**Stanky Rich** · April 26th, 2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

You forgot the part where I used LS2's money to sponsor G11 in the name of my 5thGen site.

Go ahead, go look.. I'm a sponsor.

But none of them want to go because they can't handle the drama they create.... and if they all showed up, there would be much drama. Hell, I'd even create some of my own just for the drunken entertainment value. If Elmer was gonna show up, I think I'd probably have a field day.

i thought you were over it?

**DrEvyl666** · April 26th, 2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Terror

i thought you were over it?

Over what.. LS2? I am.

Elmer, though... I don't think I'll ever be over that c***sucker... not to mention I kinda like stirring the pot.

**Stanky Rich** · April 26th, 2007, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

not to mention I kinda like stirring the pot.

i am guilty as charged as well.

**Harmon Rabb** · April 26th, 2007, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Juggernaut

Over what.. LS2? I am.

Elmer, though... I don't think I'll ever be over that c***sucker... not to mention I kinda like stirring the pot.

elmer? just wait for him to die from old age, then go pinch a loaf on his grave

**TLayton** · April 26th, 2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Marvin

elmer? just wait for him to die from old age, then go pinch a loaf on his grave

**Anthony** · April 26th, 2007, 11:07 PM

f*** b****es, get money

**DrEvyl666** · April 26th, 2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Marvin

elmer? just wait for him to die from old age, then go pinch a loaf on his grave

That's a waste of a perfectly good turd.